Original Prusa XL Dev Diary #1 and FAQ  

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It's been more than three months since Dev Diary #1 now. When can we expect Dev Diary #2?

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Another month gone and no update yet. Somewhat disappointing...

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Yes, that seems quite a long time now. As they were stating "We’ll be back in several weeks" in the dev diary #1, I expected about 2 months. Now that it has been over 4 month, it gets a bit annoying to not hear anything new. I was really looking forward to getting a bit more details, or even better, a preview look of one of the known youtubers and their opinion. Have a few projects on hold until the XL arrives, as I think they will benefit from bigger print volume. But still, this uncertainty is just not a good feeling.

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The issue is that they are constantly on social media and have talked about and launched other products.  They very easily could put out updates, but the refuse to do so. that is weird.  They know what is happening, but they have made the decision not to put info out.  This is the one time I wish they were publicly held, because the market would punish them pretty harshly for this.  Communicate. Deliver.  If you can’t do both, at least do one.  You owe it to your customers and your brand.

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I don't usually join these type of  threads, However Joe Prusa said in one of their podcasts a little less then a month ago, they are having problems getting parts of several types, as well it was mentioned that Delta will not be supplying the PSU's per previous agreement, and that new sources would have to be located and I'm betting accommodated/redesigned for. I'm no fan boy, and I have been experiencing these exact same kind of troubles in my business, I spent the last two weeks on the phone with venders trying to locate materials I was supposed to have Five weeks ago.

So I believe them when they say these things, and I would expect an even longer wait.

Regards

Swiss_Cheese

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Posted by: @swiss_cheese

I don't usually join these type of  threads, However Joe Prusa said in one of their podcasts a little less then a month ago, they are having problems getting parts of several types, as well it was mentioned that Delta will not be supplying the PSU's per previous agreement, and that new sources would have to be located and I'm betting accommodated/redesigned for. I'm no fan boy, and I have been experiencing these exact same kind of troubles in my business, I spent the last two weeks on the phone with venders trying to locate materials I was supposed to have Five weeks ago.

So I believe them when they say these things, and I would expect an even longer wait.

 

Regards

 

Swiss_Cheese

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This forum expiration "tactic" is bothersome.

Following my previous post. Anyway what i wanted to say after quoting @Swiss_Cheese is that the issue is not the delay. This is something most of us that preorder accept and acknowledge. Is the lack of communication. A podcast is not an update. An update is something either send to your customers or something that can easily be found on the company's webpage clearly indicating the subject of the information. Going through recordings and videos just to find a mention of the subject is not , in my humble opinion, proper communication with your customers. How difficult is when you create a blog article about print farms or competitions, every couple of months , to add another with an update on the XL diary. Just 10 lines will suffice.

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Completely agree with the above. Having seen the XL in person at TCT I was disappointed with where the machine was at, it wasn't even printing. I appreciate there are supply chain issues however I have concerns the development of the XL is not where it should be. I hope I'm wrong as I want it to be a success.

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Totally agree. I have no problem with a (hopefully slight) delay. What really bothers me is the more or less total lack of communication. If you announce dev Updates, the customers should be able to rely on that announcement.

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For anyone not following on social media platforms: Update on the blog is intended for "in a few weeks"

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Thanks for telling us this stevQ!

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"In a few weeks" ... that tastes salty ... in my opinion. 

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Being generous... let's assume a few weeks is 2 weeks. That's mid august for a simple -update- to the product. That's also half way through Q3.

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So, as I just heared in the last pursa live:
At mark 29:40min, Josef said, that the update should come next week. As this stream is already 6 days late, I assume that the update should be just around the corner then?!

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Update is out:
https://blog.prusa3d.com/development-update-reworked-nextruder-new-features-and-updated-shipping-information_69967/

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So, by the end of 2023…. Maybe.

Borderline criminal to take deposits and wait this long.

They should refund deposits.

They really need to better lay out the order of orders, or they are going to have a riot on their hands.  A 6 month smear for day 1 orders?

They need to set a schedule for updates.

I ordered a from teh ground up SUV, the Ineos Grenadier, months after the XL and at this rate, I’ll get that first.

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Posted by: @milehigh3der

So, by the end of 2023…. Maybe.

Borderline criminal to take deposits and wait this long.

They should refund deposits.

They really need to better lay out the order of orders, or they are going to have a riot on their hands.  A 6 month smear for day 1 orders?

They need to set a schedule for updates.

I ordered a from teh ground up SUV, the Ineos Grenadier, months after the XL and at this rate, I’ll get that first.

 

You can cancel your preorder; to my knowledge, nothing is stopping you from doing so. I'm not going to lie and say I don't feel some kind of way about preordering and then being told it's pushed back (my preorder wasn't even going to be looked at until 2023), knowing my money is sitting in a bank account gaining meager interest for the company (but add up all preorders and then it becomes a more significant thing) lol. Oh well, it is what it is, my Bambu labs printer arrives next week, so I'll have plenty of time to play with that, and possibly we will see a 300mm x 300mm version before the XL is even available. 

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Yeah. I'll keep my pre-order, but, at this rate, I'll have 2-3 Bambu X1Cs well before these ship.
If they meet this new very late timeline... start shipping in December, have "Day 1" preorders done around June 2023. That's... insane. I'm day 4 for my pre-order. I'll be pretty surprised if I see it in 2023 at that kind of rate (presumably at some point the amount of pre-orders per day tapers off, but, who knows when that'll be). At least I have plenty of time to decide on what to do with my pre-order, and, also the competition has more than enough time to release more competing products.

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Posted by: @milehigh3der

So, by the end of 2023…. Maybe.

Borderline criminal to take deposits and wait this long.

They should refund deposits.

They really need to better lay out the order of orders, or they are going to have a riot on their hands.  A 6 month smear for day 1 orders?

They need to set a schedule for updates.

I ordered a from teh ground up SUV, the Ineos Grenadier, months after the XL and at this rate, I’ll get that first.

 

Working in the automotive industry, let me tell you they have the same issues. But other than small Prusa-like companies, they also have the money and quantities to make sure the delayed parts arrive first in their production instead of the production of other companies. 

I am pretty disappointed by the news, not by prusa though. I would love to have a few devices being sent to reviewers and can't wait to see which number I have on the preorder list ^^'