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keithroe
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Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

I purchased a few rolls of spidermaker filament and found that the extruder keeps slipping on the very soft filament.  I have completely taken apart the extruder, cleaned with a wire brush and tried again.  Same thing happens.  I have tried two different rolls of the spidermaker filament and get the same results with both.  

Does anyone have any suggestions on how I might remedy the situation?

Thanks.

Postato : 20/05/2021 4:01 pm
bobstro
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RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

I had a similar experience. It looks fantastic in the pics, but it's tricky to use. The stuff is almost waxy. I now view it as a specialty filament like flex, not a 1:1 drop-in replacement for normal PLA.

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Postato : 20/05/2021 4:15 pm
keithroe
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

Interesting.  Yeah, it almost feels like it is made of soap.  All of the reviews go on about how it prints beautifully at a wide range of temps and settings.  Maybe it is just a bad match for the extruder the mini uses?

I did find that printing at >= 215 degrees helped a bit but you can tell it is still slipping and print quality suffers a lot.  then eventually enough waxy shavings are in the extruder that it stops gripping completely.

Postato : 20/05/2021 4:20 pm
bobstro
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RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

I think it's one of those filaments that you can get great results with it if you're willing to spend the time and money doing a lot of test prints. The finish is very nice (potentially). It's like those nice ColorFabb or ProtoPasta filaments that cost $50/Kg+. Gorgeous, but not something I'm likely to use a lot of.

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Postato : 20/05/2021 4:26 pm
keithroe
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

Well, the search for a great matte filament for the Mini continues ...

  • Overture Matte PLA
  • Spidermaker Matte PLA
Postato : 20/05/2021 4:29 pm
cwbullet
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RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

@keithroe

Does it have to be PLA?

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Postato : 20/05/2021 6:43 pm
keithroe
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

@cwbullet

No, it doesnt have to be PLA -- I will try anything that is moderately easy to use.

Postato : 20/05/2021 7:21 pm
cwbullet
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RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

@keithroe

Any particular color of Matte filament?  Black?

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Postato : 20/05/2021 8:17 pm
keithroe
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

@cwbullet

I really like a variety. I would prefer to do most of my prints in matte

Postato : 20/05/2021 8:22 pm
cwbullet
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RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

Have you tried Polymaker PolyTerra?  

https://www.amazon.com/Polymaker-PolyTerra-Bioplastic-Printing-Filament/dp/B08QMXDTJL/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=Matte%2Bpla%2Bfilament&qid=1621542165&sr=8-5&th=1

Or Eryone Matte?

https://www.amazon.com/ERYONE-Filament-1-75mm-Printer-2-2LBS/dp/B08HWY3DHD/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=Matte+pla+filament&qid=1621542271&sr=8-4

Those are two I have tried and they are relatively easy to print.  Polymaker is widely available and comes in lots of colors.  

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3D Printer Review Blog

Postato : 20/05/2021 8:27 pm
keithroe
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

I havent but the Eryone was on my wish list.  I will try it next.  Thanks!

Postato : 20/05/2021 8:29 pm
cwbullet
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RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

@keithroe

I would try Polymaker also.  Fantastic stuff.  

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Postato : 20/05/2021 8:30 pm
bobstro
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RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

I've got some spools of add:north's Textura architectural filaments, but haven't been able to test them yet. Definitely pricey, but possibly worth it for some projects.

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Postato : 20/05/2021 8:35 pm
keithroe
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

@bobstro

Looks cool - but definitely pricey and more so once I would ship to the states.

Postato : 20/05/2021 8:37 pm
bobstro
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RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?
Posted by: @keithroe

@bobstro

Looks cool - but definitely pricey and more so once I would ship to the states.

Yes, well... we're talking about art here are we not? 😀 

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Postato : 20/05/2021 8:45 pm
keithroe
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

@bobstro

Fair enough 

Postato : 20/05/2021 8:46 pm
cwbullet
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RE: Spidermaker filament too soft for extruder?

@bobstro

I think I have a sample of this stuff somewhere.  

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Postato : 20/05/2021 10:25 pm
keithroe
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Topic starter answered:
Finally found a matte filament that works well for me

Just a followup in case others find this thread -- PolyMaker PolyTerra PLA has been printing beautifully from my mini.  The print quality exceeds what I have been able to achieve with any other matte pla.  It isnt quite as fully matte as Overture Matte PLA, but it is close.

Postato : 22/07/2021 4:58 pm
cwbullet
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Terra PLA

 

Posted by: @keithroe

Just a followup in case others find this thread -- PolyMaker PolyTerra PLA has been printing beautifully from my mini.  The print quality exceeds what I have been able to achieve with any other matte pla.  It isnt quite as fully matte as Overture Matte PLA, but it is close.

It is very sticky to the plate.  It is pretty matte, but you are correct.  

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Postato : 22/07/2021 6:40 pm
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