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hyiger
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Prusa's stock filament profiles tend to be conservative compared to other vendors (which is a good thing)

Having been experimenting a lot with different printer manufacture's profiles and some (like Bambu) tend to (me) emphasize speed over quality in their profiles. Prusa seems to have taken an opposite approach. Their profiles are on the conservative side and emphasize print quality over speed. I definitely agree that's the right approach. End of the day I'd rather have a solid print than shave off an hour or more (one more reason why I don't use HF nozzles) in print time. 

When I was recalibrating some engineering filaments, I was getting higher max volumetric flow readings than the stock profiles. Raising it up too high would result in a degradation in print quality and in particular layer adhesion. What I've noticed with Bambu profiles is after recalibration I've been lowering the max flow rates. 

I guess the short of it is "speed kills" 

Opublikowany : 11/04/2026 9:06 pm
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mnentwig
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"Conservative" settings are good when working with generic material, and I rarely touch any of the settings other than temperature.

However, as a bit of constructive criticism, there are many, many settings in Prusa's firmware where "conservative" is just a lame excuse for "lazy". 

Sadly, more often than not it is "want something done properly - do it yourself". And I eat my own dogfood here and write the whole workflow from scratch on my Voron. The difference can be night-and-day.

Example: Filament insertion: I can measure the distance "start-of-extruder" - "start-of-nozzle" trivially with a piece of filament and a ruler. Then fast-forward that amount minus a few millimeters, plus one more centimeter at crawl speed and voilà, filament inserted. Coming from Core One, it seems otherworldly, click the button and filament comes oozing out of the nozzle in a blink. This doesn't need tens of seconds and a progress bar. 

Many other examples can be found, e.g. heatsoak. Yes there are cases where it's critical but please provide a 10-min shortcut for the 99 % of cases where it's not, to be decided by the user (I know I can skip it from the screen if I happen to be around at the right time, but c'mon, that's ridiculous. The problem is so obvious. And customer is king or not a customer for very-much-longer).

edit and yes, obviously I could take the same approach with the Core One but I guess when people pay heavy premium over the hardware cost they rightfully approach the product with a different mindset.

We'll just put some bleachers out in the sun-And have it on Highway 61
Opublikowany : 12/04/2026 5:06 pm
hyiger
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RE: Prusa's stock filament profiles tend to be conservative compared to other vendors (which is a good thing)

 

Posted by: @mnentwig

Many other examples can be found, e.g. heatsoak. Yes there are cases where it's critical but please provide a 10-min shortcut for the 99 % of cases where it's not, to be decided by the user (I know I can skip it from the screen if I happen to be around at the right time, but c'mon, that's ridiculous. The problem is so obvious. And customer is king or not a customer for very-much-longer).

Speaking of taking time though... I started a print 15 minutes ago on my H2D and after a lengthy nozzle calibration it just now is doing the bed leveling. It's also doing a heat soak but it's hiding that fact. The nice thing though it's very simple to move a slider in the slicer and turn it off for a print. 

For the Core One I setup g-code to do heat soak based on print area. I'll probably add filament type to it as well. 

; ── Bed Heat Soak ───────────────────────────────────────────────
; Allow bed to thermally stabilize before MBL so the mesh reflects
; the bed's true expanded state.
;
; Tuning variables:
;   heat_soak_area  — area threshold in mm² (default 100×100mm = 10,000mm²)
;   small_print_dwell — dwell time in seconds for small prints
;

{local print_w = first_layer_print_max[0] - first_layer_print_min[0]}
{local print_h = first_layer_print_max[1] - first_layer_print_min[1]}

{local heat_soak_area = 10000}   ; threshold: 100×100mm
{local small_print_dwell = 10}   ; short dwell in seconds for small prints

{if print_w * print_h < heat_soak_area}
  G4 S{small_print_dwell}         ; small print — short dwell sufficient
{else}
  G29 G                           ; large print — full bed stabilization wait
{endif}

 

Opublikowany : 12/04/2026 5:13 pm
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mnentwig
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RE: Prusa's stock filament profiles tend to be conservative compared to other vendors (which is a good thing)

+1 for having that idea included in the next coreOne preset ...

We'll just put some bleachers out in the sun-And have it on Highway 61
Opublikowany : 12/04/2026 5:32 pm
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