RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
Shane,
Thanks for doing this.
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Chuck H
3D Printer Review Blog
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
Welcome back SOS
It would be helpful if Printables had its own area in this forum. I’ve been asking for this for over 2 years.
Let people with over 100 Posts edit their old Posts. I don’t think you have to worry about people who have been on this forum for years adding spam links to their old Posts.
If you check the box “Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information” when using MS Edge you can no longer write or reply to Posts. Can you change that?
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
100% concur!
Welcome back SOS
It would be helpful if Printables had its own area in this forum. I’ve been asking for this for over 2 years.
Let people with over 100 Posts edit their old Posts. I don’t think you have to worry about people who have been on this forum for years adding spam links to their old Posts.
If you check the box “Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information” when using MS Edge you can no longer write or reply to Posts. Can you change that?
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Chuck H
3D Printer Review Blog
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
Technical issues are already under investigation 😉
I know... It's the only feedback I can offer.
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
While this is great for that user, it's not so great for the community
... yea - especially for the more "inconvenient" topics like messing up Z axis screw pitch. Ship happens and stuff gets caught in the fan occasionally but then it needs to be handled openly or "viral" reverts to the original meaning of the word.
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
Sounds great. Fix the 24/7 chat. There is a certain irony that the "news" and "price quotes" to the left and right of it work.
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
The number of sub-forums should definitely be reduced. If a forum section falls below a certain activity threshold, it largely dies: No point posting there since you can't expect to get a reply; no point reading it since there's nothing happening. Also, I think there is too much differentiation: Many questions are not that model-specific. Information is already available somewhere but hard to find, so questions get asked again and again.
I would suggest merging the three different XL sub-forums into one, and merging all sub-forums on the various i3 iterations before MK4 into one.
But first and foremost, please fix the performance issues of the forum platform! Shane, I know you don't want to hear more about this. But unless this is fixed, all discussion about tweaking the format and the content is moot. It feels like the problems have only gotten worse over the past couple of months. Every other time I want to check the forum for updates, I turn away again because it is extremely unresponsive.
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
The number of sub-forums should definitely be reduced.
In several other than English forums there are sub-forums with no topic... MMU3 is a good example of the needed restructuration. It's not under "Prusa add-on" but you can get it as an upgrade for your MK3, MK4 or even CORE One. Where will the INDX upgrade be placed? Alone or as sub-section of CORE One, CORE One+, CORE One L?
One feature that I do like from the French biggest community forum is the "quick profile overview". On the left under the avatar/name/reputation, you can find the location of the maker and the owned machines. This is a great help when a noob come to ask a question without telling us on which machine the problem is. The location/country here would be a nice to have for non-native speakers of the "sub-forum" like me.
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
The problem with allowing editing of posts is that a member can go back and edit an old post and this can disturb the flow of the thread as all other posts after the edited one may now not seem relevant. Hence the reason why post editing is typically set at 10 minutes or so - I appreciate even that isn't working in the forum at the moment, but even if the time limit was set to 20-30 mins I don't see it being an issue......
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
The problem with allowing editing of posts is that a member can go back and edit an old post and this can disturb the flow of the thread as all other posts after the edited one may now not seem relevant. Hence the reason why post editing is typically set at 10 minutes or so - I appreciate even that isn't working in the forum at the moment, but even if the time limit was set to 20-30 mins I don't see it being an issue......
I'd suggest "X minutes, or until another reply has been posted, whichever is earlier". X = 30 should be sufficient to catch mistakes or add second thoughts. If someone has already replied to the post before that timeout, then the post gets locked to preserve context.
AIui the issue with the edit timeout came about because a group of spammers were making apparently innocent posts, waiting until they passed moderation and then going back and editing-in spam.
Cheerio,
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
AIui the issue with the edit timeout came about because a group of spammers were making apparently innocent posts, waiting until they passed moderation and then going back and editing-in spam.
They are still doing that. Only now they add spam to the signature, which is not protected against edits in any way.
Since the first five (?) posts by a new user are only published after review by a moderator, their edits should be reviewed as well, I think. Regular new users would not cause much extra work since edits are not that common, and it would keep out the spammers.
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
I want to edit forever, or at least a month. I often learn something new or spot an error and will always preface an edit with [edit] or similar.
Shifting gears, I'd love to see a forum "CAD and Designing for 3D Printing." Success begins at the beginning. I don't know about subforums for every CAD program ever made, as that would dilute things and most wouldn't get read, but deep discussions of the preferred way of doing models, how a 3D part is done entirely differently than a machined part, design intent and how to address warping problems would be really useful. I've already learned quite a few things, but the information is spread over many forums.
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
I want to edit forever, or at least a month. I often learn something new or spot an error and will always preface an edit with [edit] or similar.
But if you edit your post days later, after the discussion has moved on and other posts have been added below, none of those contributors will see you edits. They will probably not scroll back to your post again -- or might not even revisit that thread, since they don't see new activity there. Better to add a new post in that case.
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
I'm thinking more of people that find the post via a search, though I don't know how frequent that is here. Pulling up necro threads on other forums I frequent seems to be common.
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I want to edit forever, or at least a month. I often learn something new or spot an error and will always preface an edit with [edit] or similar.
But if you edit your post days later, after the discussion has moved on and other posts have been added below, none of those contributors will see you edits. They will probably not scroll back to your post again -- or might not even revisit that thread, since they don't see new activity there. Better to add a new post in that case.
This is why I think you should lock it once a reply is added. To maintain the flow of conversation. But up until that point, who cares if it's changed?
I often post faster than I grammar. So not being able to edit after the fact is very frustrating.
Spammers are solved with "reputation" and moderation.
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
But first and foremost, please fix the performance issues of the forum platform! Shane, I know you don't want to hear more about this. But unless this is fixed, all discussion about tweaking the format and the content is moot. It feels like the problems have only gotten worse over the past couple of months. Every other time I want to check the forum for updates, I turn away again because it is extremely unresponsive.
Performance issues have been a real problem lately for ALL web forums, not just this one. This is largely caused by AI bots scouring forums for data to train the AI on, to the point where it accounts for the majority of traffic on some forums. Most of the other forums I read have gone "members only" where you have to be logged in to even enter the forum, not just to post. One shut down entirely last year, which I assume was due at least as much to the cost from all the bogus AI traffic as it was to lack of legit traffic (most of the users had drifted away over the years). A month or two before that forum shut down, I looked at the stats, and it showed a month of few to no posts, as being the most active period in the 17 years the forum was up, in terms of views.
Going members-only is just a stop gap, because where admins previously "only" had to contend with keeping spammers out, now they are in a constant battle to keep the AI bots from registering bogus accounts. One small forum I am on, the admin has talked about walking a constant tightrope between trying to keep the AI bad actors out, while not inadvertently blacklisting legitimate users' IPs. For every countermeasure, the bots' masters find work arounds, and the end result is likely to be the death of web forums in general.
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
Missed the edit time, dammit. I guess the main point of my last post, is that while the performance issues are annoying from the standpoint of a user, anyone who is running a web forum should be cut a little slack. There is a largely unseen battle going on of which most are not (or just barely) aware.
RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
Tired of all the AI models on Printables that are ridiculous and no one will ever try and print. Thanks for the option of turning them off from my view!
I agree with higeqra. Often, the best support is here. I fought a problem for several months that support just kept saying I needed to tension my belts properly. Wasn't the problem any of the ten times they told me to do that. Curious, what method of tracking does support have to see if they have worked on the same problem for the same user over and over? Any?
Also, there needs to be a method in Printables for someone to delete the same model that has been posted by the same user ten times. That may be an issue from lag time, but it happens over and over.
Overall, the Forum is a great source of info, usually. There are the dregs that just want to be disruptive, but that happens everywhere. I am okay with the contest. Some great ideas have come up from them. Don't belong on the forum though. Maybe easier ways to post photos of issues.
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RE: Knock Knock.... Just a little status update, anyone home?
One other thing. Why does Prusa not post reviews of things like filament? I have added several on problem filaments that never showed up. Don't ask for reviews if you are not going to post the bad with the good.
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