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Area51
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Is it a remix if you just remove the logo from a 3D model?

Today my model IKEA 365+ IPA Tank Strainer was remixed and republished on Printables under the name IKEA 365+ IPA Tank Strainer no logo, where the only change from the original was that my little logo "A51" was removed.

Is it a remix or a copy?

I got the credit as remix, but mostly think it's more of a copy and should be removed.

Does anyone have experience with this situation and what is the best way to handle it?

Have a look at my models on Printables.com 😉

Posted : 14/02/2023 10:26 pm
Diem
 Diem
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Open the model page, click the three dots, select report and then select Copyright Strike from the dropdown.  Provide a link to your original and a copy of the licence details indicating the violation.  I presume you didn't allow Sharing without  attribution or Meets open definition...

Cheerio,

Posted : 14/02/2023 10:49 pm
Area51
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Is it a remix if you just remove the logo from a 3D model?

I allow remix for the model and got an attribution for the remix, but the changes to the remixed model is only removing my A51 logo, not any functional changes.

I know about the report (...) function and that is properly the right action in this case - but is this a common problem on Printables and what do other content creators do in similar situations?

Have a look at my models on Printables.com 😉

Posted : 14/02/2023 11:16 pm
Diem
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It's a common problem on all 3d printing sites - especially those where there is some sort of reward or fee obtainable.  Here we have seen a significant increase since the regular competitions started; a significant proportion of the entries are simply copied from other sites/users and claimed as original work.

Is it a new song if you just change the name of the lady you're singing about?  Of course not.

A remix implies a change of function, style or other significant design feature, not a rebadging.

Cheeri,

Posted : 14/02/2023 11:54 pm
JimB
 JimB
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RE: Is it a remix if you just remove the logo from a 3D model?

You licensed it under CC-NC-SA-4.0.  Their listing mentions that it came from you as required by the license.  No indication that it is being used commercially that I saw.  The description, though rather minimal, says what was changed.  They also kept the same license as required.

Maybe there is some printables.com rule that I am missing, but I don't see a problem license-wise (but I am not a lawyer).

Posted : 15/02/2023 12:02 am
René
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RE: Is it a remix if you just remove the logo from a 3D model?

As Diem points out, the reward system is the cause of this kind of nonsense designing remixes.

It therefore seems that removing a logo or text from a well-established design has the sole purpose of wanting to get a reward quickly.

Simply stopping rewards can result in only functional remixes being posted.

Posted : 18/02/2023 11:20 am
ThreeD-Michael
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RE: Is it a remix if you just remove the logo from a 3D model?
Posted by: @rene-3

Simply stopping rewards can result in only functional remixes being posted.

... and will likely result in less extraordinary, elaborate, and well tested designs.

Although I agree on this point: the requirements for a valid remix should be higher. Or you can rule out remixes right away.

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Posted : 18/02/2023 1:27 pm
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