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Robin
(@robin-4)
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Filamentive filaments anyone using them?

Hi All,
I have only had my mk3 for a few weeks and so far all is well. Printing has been easy using the supplied PLA. But i was after using some more durable filament so i found Filamentive who are not far from me and had a 20% off offer on all stock. So i ordered there rPLA, rPETG and some ASA.
The PLA prints almost as the Prusa supplied PLA. But trying the PETG has been a little difficult. as this is recycled material is seems the temperature of the hot end needs to be higher, although on there data its the same as normal stuff.
Has anyone any experiance of using Filamentive filaments?

Napsal : 15/05/2018 12:44 am
Rosparovac
(@rosparovac)
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Re: Filamentive filaments anyone using them?

I don't know this company but I have one fatal message for you. None of 3D printing filament are recyclable.
He explain it very well:
Also you can look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_recycling
So yeah 3D prints are recyclabe but nobody do it. No marks, no tryes.

University: MK2S upgraded to MK3 with MMU2.0
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Materials: ABS; ASA; PETG; PET; PLA; Nylon; Nylon Carbon; CPE;
SW: Freecad 0.18; Slicer PE And still generating more troubles than whole forum together.

Napsal : 19/05/2018 9:41 am
bobstro
(@bobstro)
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Re: Filamentive filaments anyone using them?

Just a general suggestion about printing with both PLA and PETG from a newbie:

  • Read up on the procedure for switching from higher-temp PETG to lower-temp PLA to save yourself some grief. You need to make sure you cleared out all the PETG before switching back to PLA to avoid clogs since the lower-temp PLA settings may not be sufficient to melt any leftover PETG. Since fighting this on my first attempt with PETG, I've purchased some of the eSun cleaning filament to aid with this process and have switched back and forth a few times since without issue. I do give the bed a wipe with 91% IPA before starting back up with PLA.

  • PETG is a bit fussier with stringing and bed adhesion. Read the cautions about "dirtying up" the bed for PETG (e.g. windex or finger grease). Stringiness is mostly a retraction issue (in my limited experience). It's more shiny and "gooier" than PLA, so it won't look the same.
  • My notes and disclaimers on 3D printing

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    Napsal : 23/05/2018 4:19 am
    JoanTabb
    (@joantabb)
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    Re: Filamentive filaments anyone using them?


    I don't know this company but I have one fatal message for you. None of 3D printing filament are recyclable.
    He explain it very well:
    Also you can look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_recycling
    So yeah 3D prints are recyclabe but nobody do it. No marks, no tryes.

    Filamentive are a forward thinking company they recycle industrial waste. and the examples I have used, have worked well.

    they also recycle plastic filament holders giving the customer credit against future orders. those reels that cannot be used directly, are shredded and integrated into lower quality products like park benches and plastic fencing

    they have taken a step towards sustainability by using reprocessed vegetable fibre reels instead of plastic reels... at this time, they don't use the 'master reel' concept.

    give them a try, you might be pleasantly surprised.

    regards Joan

    I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

    Napsal : 23/05/2018 3:22 pm
    Robin
    (@robin-4)
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    Topic starter answered:
    Re: Filamentive filaments anyone using them?


    I don't know this company but I have one fatal message for you. None of 3D printing filament are recyclable.
    He explain it very well:
    Also you can look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_recycling
    So yeah 3D prints are recyclabe but nobody do it. No marks, no tryes.

    I think you read the post wrong. Its not recycled 3D filament. Its recycled plastic to make the filament.

    Having a but of bother with settings but slowly getting there, 10 Deg hotter hotend than normal PLA. Also it may need a higher extrusion flow for first layers, but still need to check.
    Just started using a yellow filament to print lego type parts and it been a real pain. Overhangs have been curling up at the edges and hitting the nozzle. Just on with a 37hour print on some square blocks and so far its behaving, fingers crossed.

    Napsal : 24/05/2018 1:02 am
    Robin
    (@robin-4)
    Estimable Member
    Topic starter answered:
    Re: Filamentive filaments anyone using them?

    So far 75% through with the first Lego prints in the yellow filamentive PLA. It’s gone better than the previous print of a Lego head which failed.
    Bridging started ok

    Napsal : 24/05/2018 5:09 pm
    Robin
    (@robin-4)
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    Topic starter answered:
    Re: Filamentive filaments anyone using them?

    The bricks have come out ok

    Napsal : 25/05/2018 2:16 am
    tito.p2
    (@tito-p2)
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    Re: Filamentive filaments anyone using them?

    Hey Robin, how are you?

    Is there any chance I may ask you what CURA setting you're using with your Filamentive PLA?
    Struggling to get rid of zits and trying to improve adhesion while avoiding warping.

    Thanks a lot
    Best
    Tito

    Napsal : 10/10/2018 2:18 pm
    RufusClupea
    (@rufusclupea)
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    Re: Filamentive filaments anyone using them?


    I don't know this company but I have one fatal message for you. None of 3D printing filament are recyclable.

    I don't know if you meant ALL 3D printing filaments, or just those made by Filamentive.

    Depending on one's location, some PET (but NOT--AFAIK--PETG) is recyclable.
    One needs to check with their local recycling entity for what is or isn't recyclable.
    Acceptance/collection of certain plastics does not imply recyclability; some plastics are collected, but then just buried in a landfill (or dumped at sea 😯 )

    PLA, while not recyclable, is biodegradable.

    I've actually begun putting recycling codes on the bottoms of my prints (when/where there's room).

    That's "MISTER Old Fart" to you!

    Napsal : 10/10/2018 5:06 pm
    Robin
    (@robin-4)
    Estimable Member
    Topic starter answered:
    Re: Filamentive filaments anyone using them?


    Hey Robin, how are you?

    Is there any chance I may ask you what CURA setting you're using with your Filamentive PLA?
    Struggling to get rid of zits and trying to improve adhesion while avoiding warping.

    Thanks a lot
    Best
    Tito

    I use slic3r pe.
    I have found a few variations with the filamentive pla. The colour seems to make a difference to the temperatures and the max speeds. So it takes a little setting up.
    But for first layers I have a bed temp of 60 degrees, hotend 220 and print at no faster than 30mm/sec. also I have the first layer width set wider. You need to find what suits best for you printer. 0.45 is standard but I use 0.48 to 0.5mm.
    Large prints need a brim. I’ve not worked out what is the main cause of corners lifting when the do. But I have found that one side of my print sheet will work better than the other. Both sides are pei covered. The textured powder coat sheet may be better? I need to get one to try.

    For the higher layers I drop to 195 to 205 degrees again this is colour dependant. Speeds are 35 to 45mm/sec. higher is possible is it’s a long extrusion with little or no retractions.
    I’m just starting to work on overhangs past 45 degrees angle which is the difficult one

    Napsal : 10/10/2018 5:51 pm
    Adam Widdowson
    (@adam-widdowson)
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    RE: Filamentive filaments anyone using them?

    Having spoke to their CEO you are right.  It's recycled waste from 'industrial processes'.  I imagine that means scrap from some type of factory where the quality and exact make-up of the material is more controlled than random bits of filament going in.

    Posted by: @robin-4

    I don't know this company but I have one fatal message for you. None of 3D printing filament are recyclable.
    He explain it very well:
    Also you can look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_recycling
    So yeah 3D prints are recyclabe but nobody do it. No marks, no tryes.

    I think you read the post wrong. Its not recycled 3D filament. Its recycled plastic to make the filament.

    Having a but of bother with settings but slowly getting there, 10 Deg hotter hotend than normal PLA. Also it may need a higher extrusion flow for first layers, but still need to check.
    Just started using a yellow filament to print lego type parts and it been a real pain. Overhangs have been curling up at the edges and hitting the nozzle. Just on with a 37hour print on some square blocks and so far its behaving, fingers crossed.

     

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