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cable management

how do you guys manage your cable in the EINSY board box, i may be having a heat issue, not sure, but wanted to see there was a solution for all the wires/cables that are unorganized.

   

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Postato : 19/09/2019 10:06 pm
cwbullet
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RE: cable management

Can't help you.  Mine looks like a rats nest.  

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Postato : 20/09/2019 12:30 am
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RE: cable management

Agreed - cable management inside the Einsy was never considered by the designers ... I did some preplanning and tried to limit excess lengths before they get to the box: where possible.  Doing a few extra ties under the printer to take up some slack.  It didn't help much.

Postato : 20/09/2019 6:43 am
Chocki
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RE: cable management

You can do what some of us have and that is print a bigger case:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3424832

Bear in mind that the Einsy board will be a bit further away from where it was and your power cables may be a bit tight.

If you do consider replacing the case, then also consider fitting heatsinks onto the chips on the Einsy before assembling everything.

They are not strictly necessary, but help keep things cool and if you decide to do some upgrading in the future, say 0.9 deg steppers, they will be required.

Something like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amazingdeal365-Aluminum-Heatsink-Raspberry-Pi/dp/B01NBTLYMG/ref=sr_1_38?keywords=30+pc+raspberry+pi+heatsink&qid=1568965914&s=gateway&sr=8-38

What you are looking for is the 4mm high heatsinks as you have 5mm space (Allow for the adhesive), from the back of the board to the case.

Clean the back of the board and top of the stepper driver chips with IPA and stick these on, also I stuck one of the bigger heatsinks on the front of the main ATMEL microcontroller chip and I have also fitted cooling to the FET transistors for the heaters. The main part to cool is actually on the back of the board as those little round spots are where the heat is conducted to.

Ask if you do plan to do this as to exactly where to apply heatsinks, I'm not at home now, so cant post pictures etc.

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Postato : 20/09/2019 8:04 am
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Topic starter answered:
RE: cable management
Posted by: @chocki

You can do what some of us have and that is print a bigger case:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3424832

Bear in mind that the Einsy board will be a bit further away from where it was and your power cables may be a bit tight.

If you do consider replacing the case, then also consider fitting heatsinks onto the chips on the Einsy before assembling everything.

They are not strictly necessary, but help keep things cool and if you decide to do some upgrading in the future, say 0.9 deg steppers, they will be required.

Something like this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amazingdeal365-Aluminum-Heatsink-Raspberry-Pi/dp/B01NBTLYMG/ref=sr_1_38?keywords=30+pc+raspberry+pi+heatsink&qid=1568965914&s=gateway&sr=8-38

What you are looking for is the 4mm high heatsinks as you have 5mm space (Allow for the adhesive), from the back of the board to the case.

Clean the back of the board and top of the stepper driver chips with IPA and stick these on, also I stuck one of the bigger heatsinks on the front of the main ATMEL microcontroller chip and I have also fitted cooling to the FET transistors for the heaters. The main part to cool is actually on the back of the board as those little round spots are where the heat is conducted to.

Ask if you do plan to do this as to exactly where to apply heatsinks, I'm not at home now, so cant post pictures etc.

that is something i would consider doing, there are not instruction out there as to how or where to stick all the stuff is there but if you have pictures that would be great.

i dont know if my warranty would be void if upgrade, but regardless i would love to add this all in to my printer. I was having some weird issues which i think were a combo of multiple issues hard to narrow them down (did a LOT of testing and lot of wasted filament), but i keeped getting lot of crashes for some weird reason, unless i let my printer cool down Completely, then print a part it would print fine no crashes but when i stopped a part from printing even after i Completely cooled my printer down then re-print a part i would get crashes so i am thinking its partly a temp issue that is causing crashes. 

Postato : 20/09/2019 10:04 pm
Nikolai
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RE: cable management
Posted by: @mop

... i keeped getting lot of crashes for some weird reason, unless i let my printer cool down Completely, then print a part it would print fine no crashes but when i stopped a part from printing even after i Completely cooled my printer down then re-print a part i would get crashes so i am thinking its partly a temp issue that is causing crashes. 

If you're not putting your printer in extreme condition like enclose it, heat up the ambient temp higher then 50C, I wouldn't search for issues in the einsy box. Most likely it's a physical issue with bearings/rods or belt tension.

 

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Postato : 20/09/2019 11:23 pm
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Topic starter answered:
RE: cable management
Posted by: @nikolai-r
Posted by: @mop

... i keeped getting lot of crashes for some weird reason, unless i let my printer cool down Completely, then print a part it would print fine no crashes but when i stopped a part from printing even after i Completely cooled my printer down then re-print a part i would get crashes so i am thinking its partly a temp issue that is causing crashes. 

If you're not putting your printer in extreme condition like enclose it, heat up the ambient temp higher then 50C, I wouldn't search for issues in the einsy box. Most likely it's a physical issue with bearings/rods or belt tension.

 

ya i do think that is also part of the issue, i did grease the rods and cleaned before hand with IPA and i did see some good improvements i am getting lot fewer crashes and got the belt numbers much closer to each other too perhaps improvements with that as well.

just wondering if particles can get inside the barrings from the rod and cause crashes?

or particles/dust on the rod can causes crashes?

i am thinking barring need to be tighten or un-tighten to balance them out maby, my u-bolts came in uneven when i got my kit, not sure if that is a issue yet. i had tighten one of the barrings which seemed a little lose but i dont know if i over tighten them now, i am thinking of printing some parts so i dont even have to use the u-bolts.

Postato : 20/09/2019 11:46 pm
nancy26
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RE: cable management

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Postato : 27/06/2020 6:35 pm
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