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gdzilla65
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prusa shields on non prusa printer

Im attempting to print the stacked prusa shields from Prusa. If I download the .3mf file it slices with a print time of 2 hrs and 40 minutes for 2 sets of 2 stacked shields. The problem is that it puts them in the bottom left corner of my Anycubic Chiron printer. It is right at the edge of the bed.

If I attempt to move the models to the center of the bed my print time changes to 2 days 5 hours. This is at .2 resolution, .4 nozzle.

I am using Cura 4.5.

Can I only use the 3mf file with prusaslicer and a prusa printer?

Opublikowany : 20/04/2020 9:53 pm
karl-herbert
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RE: prusa shields on non prusa printer
Posted by: @gdzilla65

Im attempting to print the stacked prusa shields from Prusa. If I download the .3mf file it slices with a print time of 2 hrs and 40 minutes for 2 sets of 2 stacked shields. The problem is that it puts them in the bottom left corner of my Anycubic Chiron printer. It is right at the edge of the bed.

If I attempt to move the models to the center of the bed my print time changes to 2 days 5 hours. This is at .2 resolution, .4 nozzle.

I am using Cura 4.5.

Can I only use the 3mf file with prusaslicer and a prusa printer?

3mf files can also be processed with Cura. I would try it with a simple STL file.

Statt zu klagen, dass wir nicht alles haben, was wir wollen, sollten wir lieber dankbar sein, dass wir nicht alles bekommen, was wir verdienen.

Opublikowany : 20/04/2020 11:05 pm
gdzilla65
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Topic starter answered:
RE: prusa shields on non prusa printer

@karl-herbert

I can open the stl version. What I would like to find out is the massive print time difference. between the 3mf and stl versions. What are the settings that are in the 3mf file that makes that big a difference.

Opublikowany : 20/04/2020 11:50 pm
JoanTabb
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RE: prusa shields on non prusa printer

open the 3mf file, slice the file, Save the file to your computer and then open it with Notepad++ (A freeware program) ALL of the settings are added as comments  like this :- 

; filament used [mm] = 2447.9
; filament used [cm3] = 5.9
; filament used [g] = 7.3
; filament cost = 0.2

; total filament used [g] = 7.3
; total filament cost = 0.2
; estimated printing time (normal mode) = 37m 32s
; estimated printing time (silent mode) = 37m 35s

; avoid_crossing_perimeters = 0
; bed_custom_model =
; bed_custom_texture =
; bed_shape = 0x0,250x0,250x210,0x210
; bed_temperature = 70
; before_layer_gcode = ;BEFORE_LAYER_CHANGE\nG92 E0.0\n;[layer_z]\n\n
; between_objects_gcode =
; bottom_fill_pattern = rectilinear
; bottom_solid_layers = 3
; bottom_solid_min_thickness = 0.5
; bridge_acceleration = 1000
; bridge_angle = 0
; bridge_fan_speed = 100
; bridge_flow_ratio = 0.95
; bridge_speed = 30
; brim_width = 0
; clip_multipart_objects = 1
; compatible_printers_condition_cummulative = "printer_notes=~/.*PRINTER_VENDOR_PRUSA3D.*/ and printer_notes=~/.*PRINTER_MODEL_MK3.*/ and nozzle_diameter[0]==0.4";"! (printer_notes=~/.*PRINTER_VENDOR_PRUSA3D.*/ and printer_notes=~/.*PRINTER_MODEL_MK(2.5|3).*/ and single_extruder_multi_material)"
; complete_objects = 0
; cooling = 1
; cooling_tube_length = 5
; cooling_tube_retraction = 91.5
; default_acceleration = 1000
; default_filament_profile = "Prusament PLA"
; default_print_profile = 0.15mm QUALITY MK3
; deretract_speed = 0
; disable_fan_first_layers = 1
; dont_support_bridges = 1
; draft_shield = 0
; duplicate_distance = 6
; elefant_foot_compensation = 0.2
; end_filament_gcode = "; Filament-specific end gcode"
; end_gcode = G4 ; wait\nM221 S100\nM104 S0 ; turn off temperature\nM140 S0 ; turn off heatbed\nM107 ; turn off fan\n{if layer_z < max_print_height}G1 Z{z_offset+min(layer_z+30, max_print_height)}{endif} ; Move print head up\nG1 X0 Y200 F3000 ; home X axis\nM84 ; disable motors
; ensure_vertical_shell_thickness = 1
; external_perimeter_extrusion_width = 0.6
; external_perimeter_speed = 35
; external_perimeters_first = 0
; extra_loading_move = -2
; extra_perimeters = 0
; extruder_clearance_height = 20
; extruder_clearance_radius = 45
; extruder_colour = ""
; extruder_offset = 0x0
; extrusion_axis = E
; extrusion_multiplier = 1
; extrusion_width = 0.5
; fan_always_on = 1
; fan_below_layer_time = 100
; filament_colour = #FF8000
; filament_cooling_final_speed = 3.4
; filament_cooling_initial_speed = 2.2
; filament_cooling_moves = 4
; filament_cost = 25.4
; filament_density = 1.24
; filament_diameter = 1.75
; filament_load_time = 0
; filament_loading_speed = 28
; filament_loading_speed_start = 3
; filament_max_volumetric_speed = 15
; filament_minimal_purge_on_wipe_tower = 15
; filament_notes = "List of materials tested with standard PLA print settings:\n\nDas Filament\nEsun PLA\nEUMAKERS PLA\nFiberlogy HD-PLA\nFillamentum PLA\nFloreon3D\nHatchbox PLA\nPlasty Mladec PLA\nPrimavalue PLA\nProto pasta Matte Fiber\nVerbatim PLA\nVerbatim BVOH"
; filament_ramming_parameters = "120 100 6.6 6.8 7.2 7.6 7.9 8.2 8.7 9.4 9.9 10.0| 0.05 6.6 0.45 6.8 0.95 7.8 1.45 8.3 1.95 9.7 2.45 10 2.95 7.6 3.45 7.6 3.95 7.6 4.45 7.6 4.95 7.6"
; filament_settings_id = "Generic PLA - 70C"
; filament_soluble = 0
; filament_toolchange_delay = 0
; filament_type = PLA
; filament_unload_time = 0
; filament_unloading_speed = 90
; filament_unloading_speed_start = 100
; filament_vendor = (Unknown)
; fill_angle = 45
; fill_density = 20%
; fill_pattern = grid
; first_layer_acceleration = 1000
; first_layer_bed_temperature = 70
; first_layer_extrusion_width = 0.42
; first_layer_height = 0.2
; first_layer_speed = 20
; first_layer_temperature = 215
; gap_fill_speed = 40
; gcode_comments = 0
; gcode_flavor = marlin
; gcode_label_objects = 0
; high_current_on_filament_swap = 0
; host_type = octoprint
; infill_acceleration = 1000
; infill_every_layers = 1
; infill_extruder = 1
; infill_extrusion_width = 0.5
; infill_first = 0
; infill_only_where_needed = 0
; infill_overlap = 25%
; infill_speed = 85
; inherits_cummulative = "0.30mm DRAFT @MK3";"Generic PLA";"Original Prusa i3 MK3S"
; interface_shells = 0
; layer_gcode = ;AFTER_LAYER_CHANGE\n;[layer_z]
; layer_height = 0.3
; machine_max_acceleration_e = 5000,5000
; machine_max_acceleration_extruding = 1250,1250
; machine_max_acceleration_retracting = 1250,1250
; machine_max_acceleration_x = 1000,960
; machine_max_acceleration_y = 1000,960
; machine_max_acceleration_z = 1000,1000
; machine_max_feedrate_e = 120,120
; machine_max_feedrate_x = 200,100
; machine_max_feedrate_y = 200,100
; machine_max_feedrate_z = 12,12
; machine_max_jerk_e = 4.5,4.5
; machine_max_jerk_x = 8,8
; machine_max_jerk_y = 8,8
; machine_max_jerk_z = 0.4,0.4
; machine_min_extruding_rate = 0,0
; machine_min_travel_rate = 0,0
; max_fan_speed = 100
; max_layer_height = 0.25
; max_print_height = 210
; max_print_speed = 200
; max_volumetric_speed = 0
; min_fan_speed = 100
; min_layer_height = 0.07
; min_print_speed = 15
; min_skirt_length = 4
; notes =
; nozzle_diameter = 0.4
; only_retract_when_crossing_perimeters = 0
; ooze_prevention = 0
; output_filename_format = {input_filename_base}_{layer_height}mm_{filament_type[0]}_{printer_model}_{print_time}.gcode
; overhangs = 1
; parking_pos_retraction = 92
; perimeter_acceleration = 800
; perimeter_extruder = 1
; perimeter_extrusion_width = 0.5
; perimeter_speed = 50
; perimeters = 2
; post_process =
; print_settings_id = recreus_sandal.3mf (0.30mm DRAFT @MK3)
; printer_model = MK3S
; printer_notes = Don't remove the following keywords! These keywords are used in the "compatible printer" condition of the print and filament profiles to link the particular print and filament profiles to this printer profile.\nPRINTER_VENDOR_PRUSA3D\nPRINTER_MODEL_MK3\n
; printer_settings_id = Original Prusa i3 MK3S - 400micron ext
; printer_technology = FFF
; printer_variant = 0.4
; printer_vendor =
; raft_layers = 0
; remaining_times = 1
; resolution = 0
; retract_before_travel = 1
; retract_before_wipe = 0%
; retract_layer_change = 1
; retract_length = 0.4
; retract_length_toolchange = 4
; retract_lift = 0.4
; retract_lift_above = 0
; retract_lift_below = 209
; retract_restart_extra = 0
; retract_restart_extra_toolchange = 0
; retract_speed = 35
; seam_position = nearest
; serial_port =
; serial_speed = 250000
; silent_mode = 1
; single_extruder_multi_material = 0
; single_extruder_multi_material_priming = 0
; skirt_distance = 2
; skirt_height = 3
; skirts = 1
; slice_closing_radius = 0.049
; slowdown_below_layer_time = 20
; small_perimeter_speed = 30
; solid_infill_below_area = 0
; solid_infill_every_layers = 0
; solid_infill_extruder = 1
; solid_infill_extrusion_width = 0.5
; solid_infill_speed = 80
; spiral_vase = 0
; standby_temperature_delta = -5
; start_filament_gcode = "M900 K{if printer_notes=~/.*PRINTER_MODEL_MINI.*/ and nozzle_diameter[0]==0.6}0.12{elsif printer_notes=~/.*PRINTER_MODEL_MINI.*/}0.2{elsif printer_notes=~/.*PRINTER_HAS_BOWDEN.*/}200{elsif nozzle_diameter[0]==0.6}18{else}30{endif} ; Filament gcode"
; start_gcode = M862.3 P "[printer_model]" ; printer model check\nM862.1 P[nozzle_diameter] ; nozzle diameter check\nM115 U3.8.1 ; tell printer latest fw version\nG90 ; use absolute coordinates\nM83 ; extruder relative mode\nM104 S[first_layer_temperature] ; set extruder temp\nM140 S[first_layer_bed_temperature] ; set bed temp\nM190 S[first_layer_bed_temperature] ; wait for bed temp\nM109 S[first_layer_temperature] ; wait for extruder temp\nG28 W ; home all without mesh bed level\nG80 ; mesh bed leveling\nG1 Y-3.0 F1000.0 ; go outside print area\nG92 E0.0\nG1 X60.0 E9.0 F1000.0 ; intro line\nG1 X100.0 E12.5 F1000.0 ; intro line\nG92 E0.0\nM221 S{if layer_height<0.075}100{else}95{endif}
; support_material = 1
; support_material_angle = 0
; support_material_auto = 1
; support_material_buildplate_only = 1
; support_material_contact_distance = 0.1
; support_material_enforce_layers = 0
; support_material_extruder = 0
; support_material_extrusion_width = 0.38
; support_material_interface_contact_loops = 0
; support_material_interface_extruder = 0
; support_material_interface_layers = 2
; support_material_interface_spacing = 0.2
; support_material_interface_speed = 100%
; support_material_pattern = rectilinear
; support_material_spacing = 4
; support_material_speed = 45
; support_material_synchronize_layers = 0
; support_material_threshold = 55
; support_material_with_sheath = 0
; support_material_xy_spacing = 50%
; temperature = 210
; thin_walls = 0
; threads = 4
; thumbnails =
; toolchange_gcode =
; top_fill_pattern = rectilinear
; top_infill_extrusion_width = 0.45
; top_solid_infill_speed = 40
; top_solid_layers = 3
; top_solid_min_thickness = 0.6
; travel_speed = 180
; use_firmware_retraction = 0
; use_relative_e_distances = 1
; use_volumetric_e = 0
; variable_layer_height = 1
; wipe = 1
; wipe_into_infill = 0
; wipe_into_objects = 0
; wipe_tower = 1
; wipe_tower_bridging = 10
; wipe_tower_no_sparse_layers = 0
; wipe_tower_rotation_angle = 0
; wipe_tower_width = 60
; wipe_tower_x = 170
; wipe_tower_y = 125
; wiping_volumes_extruders = 70,70
; wiping_volumes_matrix = 0
; xy_size_compensation = 0
; z_offset = 0

you should then be able to set your other files up to the same settings... 
however if you have a non prusa printer, you may find some settings are inappropriate, 

regards Joan

I try to make safe suggestions,You should understand the context and ensure you are happy that they are safe before attempting to apply my suggestions, what you do, is YOUR responsibility. Location Halifax UK

Opublikowany : 21/04/2020 2:03 pm
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