Really, Prusa?  

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I just want to know how much they sell the wooden ones for...... not that I need one......just out of curiosity!!!

Must cost a fair bit!

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Pure speculation (obviously) but I'm going to guess $10-15K. 

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I would love to have one but considering the collectors value and price and the fact I just bought a core one its not an option now. I live small and my living room is also my office, I have a beautifull teak desk and matching funiture and this machine would fit in very nice.

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Posted by: @hyiger

Pure speculation (obviously) but I'm going to guess $10-15K. 

That seems excessive to me. For 250 units we are looking at CNC series production, not a carpenter spending hours per build to plane raw oak slabs by hand. My guess is that they can sell this at a very nice profit for $5k. But if course they could always decide to charge more...  

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Speaking of which: careful with wood.

Or IKEA awakens and steamrolls the market with Kallax-compatible "Plastbajsare" (mods: please delete if offensive) 🙂

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My coreone is acutally sitting on an ikea hemnes in my hobby room right now 😀 Had to extend the back a bit but ita nice to have all tools and plates in the drawers.

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That's exactly how I see it too. If I have top-notch products and don't know what to do with my engineers, I can let them tinker around like this. But not when there are still so many issues to resolve. And let's not forget that the ordering chaos was only a few months ago. Prusa, do your homework! Then you can release Porsche bicycles too.

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Posted by: @jurgen-7

Posted by: @hyiger

Pure speculation (obviously) but I'm going to guess $10-15K. 

That seems excessive to me. For 250 units we are looking at CNC series production, not a carpenter spending hours per build to plane raw oak slabs by hand. My guess is that they can sell this at a very nice profit for $5k. But if course they could always decide to charge more...  

Limited edition and signed means you'll have CEO type 3d printer enthusiast who wouldn't mind spending that kind of money. I seemed to recall Apple did that with a limited edition Apple watch that was $30K (if I remember it correctly). Anyway, sure I could be way off. But it's not the cost of materials and labor. If it was, then a Birkin bag would only be worth $50 and not $50K.  

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I'm actually okay with it.  It really doesn't mean anything to Prusa in general: they are still Prusa. A boss / owner of a company doing something unique that fits his mood? Where haven't I heard of this "my ego is huge!" behavior. Nearly every privately held company has done something similar at one point in their history. Even some public companies... heck, Musk launched his car into space.

So let JP have his sawdust memories... give him space and consider it a present he gave himself that others can also buy into and enjoy.

ps: now we know what they've been working on instead of fixing the firmware issues.
 - humor folks, please sit back down and deruffle your feathers.

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Posted by: @jurgen-7

What the Signature Oak has taken away from me -- and from all of Prusa's core customers -- is focus. Focus on the products that matter.

If you work in product design, you know that...

lol I am an industrial designer && engineer but thank you. and while you're technically correct irt the pure allotment of time as a resource...your overall point is pretty cold and over-exaggerated. prusa does not work for you, or us, or anyone but themselves. they don't owe you an oath of dedication to only the projects that interest you. a quick glance at the web says they have over 1000 employees, at least 150 of which are engineers. I'm sure their r&d was hardly impacted by this oak show piece. 

plus I pity the poor product designers who never get to think outside of their daily obligations. fun side projects are good for morale.

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Posted by: @jurgen-7

My guess is that they can sell this at a very nice profit for $5k.

You're spot-on.
They just sent out 250 emails.

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I'm falling off my asses, it's so stupid.

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I filled out the form, not knowing what the final price would be. Turns out I was one of the 250 to receive the email today that I was selected. I have until Monday to decide. The final price is:

Option 1 - Standalone unit without stands - 5 000 EUR (duties/tariffs incl.)
Option 2 - Complete set, including stands - 6 200 EUR (duties/tariffs incl.)

I guess I wasn't thinking it would be this expensive, though I see other people in this thread predicted as much. A shame really, it does look nice.

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they start the site with GET A PRICE QUOTE.

yeah,...how about no. 

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Does the OAK panels absorb the noise of the head banging non-stop? good upgrade... too bad is 5K EUROS to get a silent printer.
lol what a joke... Get off your high horse Prusa and finish your products properly before trying to shove a 5K EUROS with unfinished Firmware down peoples throat.

Where is the AMS? the 'totally' redesigned one you touted MONTHS ago on a video... 

Really, what a joke.

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It is a salute to Josef Prusa's father. I am happy that he could do it.

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I am surprised that everybody seems to take it at face value that this was Jo Prusa's passion project. That may well be the case -- but we have only heard it from a marketing video, right? And it is a much better sales pitch than "Remember that bamboo printer prank from last year's trade show? To our surprise, various people told us they would pay money for this, and we could not say no to that."  

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4 panels of CNC'd wood, that is still running in Beta Firmware (yes the 4.0 RC has not been finalized yet after months of it being released)... Quite the salute.

I am calculated that the company providing the wood is charging $300 to $600 dollars (and that is being generous) per kit sent to Prusa, likely this is A LOT less expensive for Prusa but if using my numbers, on the high end:
$600 x 250, that is $150.000

Prusa is selling these for $5000-6000? 

That is quite the salute yes... Over half a million dollar in profits for the same machine, that is still running RC (release candidate, unfinished, Firmware).

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Josef's company, his prerogative. I get it. Something like this was bound to ruffle feathers (or pearl clutching) take your pick. End of the day, for most of us it's just a hobby. I'm not massively investing in a print farm (I own one Prusa printer) so if Prusa changes direction or focus, I can (and will) go somewhere else. 

The problem I'm currently facing however is that for my other hobbies (model rockets being one), I have to place constraints on my designs based on the limitations of the Core One. A tool head changer will go a long way in solving some of my issues (dissolvable supports). The other is currently intractable being that the Nextruder is 290C max but I can work around that. So the announcement of the Oak just seemed (again to me) to be a step backwards and a distraction. 

My personal opinion is that sure, the Oak is nice. It's just not practical as an everyday printer. It reminds a lot of this: 

Neiman-Marcus Kitchen Computer

The Honeywell Kitchen Computer was a special offering of the H316 pedestal model by Neiman Marcus in 1969 as one of a continuing series of extravagant gift ideas. It was offered for US$10,000 (equivalent to US$86,000 in 2024), weighed over 100 pounds (over 45 kg) and was advertised as useful for storing recipes. The imagined uses of the Honeywell Kitchen Computer also included assistance with meal planning and balancing the family checkbook – the marketing of which included highly traditional and patronizing representations of housewives. Reading or entering these recipes would have been nearly impossible for the average intended user, since the user interface required the user to complete a two-week course just to learn how to program the device, using only toggle-switch input and binary-light output. To round out the domestic marketing, the pedestal model's writing surface was rebranded as a built-in cutting board and the computer would have a few recipes built in. No evidence has been found that any Honeywell Kitchen Computers were ever sold, though Honeywell did sell a small number (less than 20) pedestal computers outside of the Neiman Marcus branding.

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Posted by: @print_fandango-2

 

4 panels of CNC'd wood, that is still running in Beta Firmware (yes the 4.0 RC has not been finalized yet after months of it being released)... Quite the salute.

I am calculated that the company providing the wood is charging $300 to $600 dollars (and that is being generous) per kit sent to Prusa, likely this is A LOT less expensive for Prusa but if using my numbers, on the high end:
$600 x 250, that is $150.000

Prusa is selling these for $5000-6000? 

That is quite the salute yes... Over half a million dollar in profits for the same machine, that is still running RC (release candidate, unfinished, Firmware).

 

But that is true of any designer product (which this is). The leather provided to a $10000 Channel handbag is probably only worth $50. It's Prusa's pet project and it's generated buzz so I suppose in that sense it's "successful".