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                        <title>RE: Weird pathing for hexagonal surface / printing issue?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 13:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Posted by: @rrobe53 Aside from the initial this has all been on the textured sheet and has all been PETG. I&#039;ve been experimenting more, setting my bed to a lower temperature, which seems cou...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote data-userid="362818" data-postid="468613" data-mention="rrobe53"><div class="wpforo-post-quote-author"><strong> Posted by: @rrobe53 </strong></div><p>Aside from the initial this has all been on the textured sheet and has all been PETG. I've been experimenting more, setting my bed to a lower temperature, which seems counterintuitive but seems to be having positive effects.</p></blockquote><p>I'd normally print a test layer out of solidarity, but unfortunately, my Mk3 is out of action awaiting parts. I did have a bad experience with a textured sheet, so would try PETG on the smooth PEI (with a spritz of Windex) to test. Other than that, it sounds like you're making progress. PETG should stick firmly for your 1st layer just like PLA, so the same basic procedures apply. Good luck with it!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Weird pathing for hexagonal surface / printing issue?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 02:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Aside from the initial this has all been on the textured sheet and has all been PETG. I&#039;ve been experimenting more, setting my bed to a lower temperature, which seems counterintuitive but se...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the initial this has all been on the textured sheet and has all been PETG. I've been experimenting more, setting my bed to a lower temperature, which seems counterintuitive but seems to be having positive effects.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Weird pathing for hexagonal surface / printing issue?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 02:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If that&#039;s PLA, try the SMOOTH PEI sheet. If it&#039;s PETG, give the textured sheet a good wash.It is possible to get a bad textured sheet. I had one that was a complete write-off. You can print ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that's PLA, try the SMOOTH PEI sheet. If it's PETG, give the textured sheet a good wash.</p><p>It is possible to get a bad textured sheet. I had one that was a complete write-off. You can print PETG just fine on the smooth PEI, but be sure to put some sort of separator agent (Windex is recommended) before printing higher temps on it. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Weird pathing for hexagonal surface / printing issue?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2021 22:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[So I dunno. I changed out for the orange filament so it was easier to see while printing the test. The square looks good to me, got rid of the circles in the corner.Yet this is still a failu...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I dunno. I changed out for the orange filament so it was easier to see while printing the test. The square looks good to me, got rid of the circles in the corner.</p><p><a href="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1049.jpeg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-95857" src="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1049-600x500.jpeg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p>Yet this is still a failure... Same Z-Axis, same temperatures and layer height as the square.</p><p><a href="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1048.jpeg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-95854" src="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1048-600x500.jpeg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Weird pathing for hexagonal surface / printing issue?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2021 19:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Posted by: @rrobe53 I read through your site and I really appreciate it, seems real clear and I think I&#039;m moving in the right direction. Here&#039;s the Z-Height that I had in my original post, w...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote data-userid="362818" data-postid="468457" data-mention="rrobe53"><div class="wpforo-post-quote-author"><strong> Posted by: @rrobe53 </strong></div><p>I read through your site and I really appreciate it, seems real clear and I think I'm moving in the right direction. Here's the Z-Height that I had in my original post, which is what I'd set using the original method -1.350, for the entire thing.</p></blockquote><p>Those pics look very close. You can try going a bit lower to see if the little dots along the edges close up. When you peel it off, it should be a solid sheet.</p><blockquote data-userid="362818" data-postid="468457" data-mention="rrobe53"><p>I do tend to prefer the textured sheet and have been using it for PETG, but my original post I was just trying a bunch of different things to try to get it to work. I haven't scrubbed it with Dawn though, is that potentially enough to cause what I was seeing with the original hexagonal shapes? </p></blockquote><p>Possibly. If your bed adhesion isn't good, parts tend to lift easily which can cause the nozzle to snag.</p><p>Mastering the PEI takes a bit, but it's worth it not to have to use goop on your bed, brims, or (shudder) rafts.</p><p><a href="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/IMG_20200911_235832.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-58429" src="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/IMG_20200911_235832-600x500.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Weird pathing for hexagonal surface / printing issue?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2021 18:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I read through your site and I really appreciate it, seems real clear and I think I&#039;m moving in the right direction. Here&#039;s the Z-Height that I had in my original post, which is what I&#039;d set...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read through your site and I really appreciate it, seems real clear and I think I'm moving in the right direction. Here's the Z-Height that I had in my original post, which is what I'd set using the original method -1.350, for the entire thing.</p><p><a href="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1044.jpeg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-95818" src="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1044-600x500.jpeg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a> <a href="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1045.jpeg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-95821" src="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1045-600x500.jpeg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p>Some slight gaps in the top left there. </p><p>I do tend to prefer the textured sheet and have been using it for PETG, but my original post I was just trying a bunch of different things to try to get it to work. I haven't scrubbed it with Dawn though, is that potentially enough to cause what I was seeing with the original hexagonal shapes? </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Weird pathing for hexagonal surface / printing issue?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2021 18:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I may have misread your 1st picture. Print the 75x75mm square and take a pic and post that. Try to get a clear enough pic to show the extrusions clearly.If the angled lines have gaps between...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have misread your 1st picture. Print the 75x75mm square and take a pic and post that. Try to get a clear enough pic to show the extrusions clearly.</p><ul><li>If the angled lines have gaps between them and there are gaps between the angled extrusions and perimeters, you're a bit high. Move down (make more negative) your Live-Z by 0.04-0.06mm gaps until they start closing up, then lower by 0.02mm until it looks even.</li><li>If the angled lines are rough, the nozzle is probably dragging. Raise your Live-Z (make less negative) by 0.06mm and increase by 0.02mm until it smooths out.</li></ul><p>You're better off starting a bit high (the gaps are easy to spot) and move down as the gaps are easy to spot.</p><p>If you have no luck, take your PEI sheet to the kitchen sink and use some Dawn dish soap (or equivalent) on it. Nothing with hand softeners. Scrub it with a plain paper towel under hot water, rinse it, and dry it with another plain paper towel. Dry it but do not touch the print area. Don't do anything else and try Live-Z adjustment again.</p><p>If you are printing PLA, use the SMOOTH PEI sheet. If printing PETG, use the textured PEI sheet. Be aware that each has very different Live-Z requirements due to varying thickness.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2021 18:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[So you think I should be lower than I was when I started out? Sorry about taking a while to respond, I&#039;m responding pretty quickly but it appears I got flagged for moderation since I have a ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you think I should be lower than I was when I started out? Sorry about taking a while to respond, I'm responding pretty quickly but it appears I got flagged for moderation since I have a new account.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2021 18:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Argh. I hate trying to interpret pics. It looked rough in the 1st, but if the square is falling apart, you are definitely too high. Being high at the start is actually good. Bring it down 0....]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh. I hate trying to interpret pics. It looked rough in the 1st, but if the square is falling apart, you are definitely too high. Being high at the start is actually good. Bring it down 0.08mm and work down in 0.02mm increments until the surface starts to even out. When you've got it right, the square should peel up and not pull apart easily. I've got some <a href="https://projects.ttlexceeded.com/3dprinting_mk3_live_z_calibration.html" target="true">illustrated notes on using Live-Z here</a>that might be helpful.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2021 17:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[So I&#039;m trying to print this now, a small little thing that I&#039;ll actually use, rather than the whole Raspberry Pi case that takes a minute to fail.with where I left the grid it was a complete...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I'm trying to print this now, a small little thing that I'll actually use, rather than the whole Raspberry Pi case that takes a minute to fail. https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/2016-prusa-i3-mk-filament-guide-clipon</p><p><a href="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Screenshot-2021-07-06-134212.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-95806" src="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Screenshot-2021-07-06-134212-600x500.png" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p>Starting with where I left the grid it was a complete failure, -0.8</p><p><a href="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1038.jpeg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-95803" src="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1038-600x500.jpeg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p>So I decreased the Z-Height to -0.9</p><p><a href="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1039.jpeg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-95809" src="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1039-600x500.jpeg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p>And then -1</p><p><a href="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1040.jpeg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-95815" src="https://forum.prusa3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_1040-600x500.jpeg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p>And it feels like it's trending in the right direction. However, this is further than was required in the square so I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong there or not understanding what you mean by having it at the "just starting to stick" point.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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