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newtag
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prusaslicer 2.9.0 alpha1 - how to use scarf seam

Hi Dears,

Are you using the new feature ?

Do you know what is the benefits and interests of the new parameters :

- scarf joint placement

- scarf joint only on smooth

- scarf start height

- scarf joint around entire perimeter

- scarf joint length

- max scarf joint segment

- scarf joint on inner perimeters

- external perimeter first

and the possible influence of arachne generation

So far I have made a test on my MK3S with prusament PETG and standard prusa .2 quality profile for a simple cylinder with aligned seams, active scarf everywhere and keelping the other parameters defaults

The standard seam is now replaced by 2 smaller seams

Thanks for your help

 

Posted : 26/11/2024 2:19 pm
Neophyl
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RE: prusaslicer 2.9.0 alpha1 - how to use scarf seam

If you want to read about the supposed benefits then theres the original post requesting the devs implement it on the prusa githubn at https://github.com/prusa3d/PrusaSlicer/issues/11621

Its the next 'big thing' and as other slicers have it then Prusa seems to also have to have it to 'keep up'.

I did some tests with it in pla on my Neptune 3 Max when the alpha was released and personally I wont be using it.  My printers settings are pretty well dialled in and the seam on my MK3 is minimal in the first place and my Neptune 3 has slightly more noticeable seams (but still not as bad as many I've seen pictured).  That's why I decided to test it on the Max.

It made minimal difference to me except as you point out I now have 2 seams instead on 1.  I tried various distances etc (not tried the whole perimeter) on various cylinders and also a dome shape.  And like you I tried both Arachne and Classic perimeters.   As I was using white filament which is difficult to photograph I didn't bother with pics, my main method was using touch on the seam.  You can much more easily feel the effects than see them (at least with a properly tuned printer anyway).

I'm sure for some printers who's owners haven't got them dialled in nicely that it might make a difference but to me its not made any positive difference. 

The Seam Gap Distance setting on the other hand I found to be more useful.  That allowed me to tune the seam better and I did notice a small improvement when I dropped it 5% making the perimeter end closer to the start.  My max can have a slight seam gap , especially at higher speeds.  By moving it closer I have reduced that quite nicely.  Making it negative (-5%)resulted in a slightly larger bump on the seam as expected as the end and start overlap at that point.  Which is why I settled on +5%.

Posted : 26/11/2024 3:02 pm
Steve
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RE: prusaslicer 2.9.0 alpha1 - how to use scarf seam

Version 2.9.0 alpha1 is the first time I have ever loaded a pre-release slicer version. I have been eagerly waiting for scarf seams to remove the dark seam holes that show up on light beige filament. 

I set the seam position to random and use the default settings for everything else. The difference is amazing.

Posted : 26/11/2024 6:12 pm
Neophyl
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RE: prusaslicer 2.9.0 alpha1 - how to use scarf seam

Still got my printed test parts.  Although as mentioned in white so difficult to photograph.

Of the following 2 cylinders can you tell which is the scarf seam ?  One is 2.9a with no scarf seam and the other is with a 10mm spacing scarf seam.  The small black marks on the tops indicate where the seams are.

Posted : 26/11/2024 7:27 pm
newtag
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Topic starter answered:
RE: prusaslicer 2.9.0 alpha1 - how to use scarf seam

Another experiment on my side regarding seams on a light flying wing with 2 perimeters and .15 layer on prusament PLA and default profile on MK3S:

Without scarf, good print but obviously a small seam

With scarf, no seam but the vertical side is not vertical anymore with big deformation around the cylinder 

I am still trying to understand the new parameters for the seam scarf !

 

Posted : 04/12/2024 11:40 am
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