PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL  

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @zalntar-a

How to turn this silly massages off?

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RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

@zalntar-a

Did you try to put top_infill_extrustion_width bigger than your layer width? As far as I know this param has to be equal or bigger than layer width.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

@michele-b3

Restriction is accociated with layer height not layer wide.

You ll get cracks if you turn that width bigger than layer height. You can see my photos of that on 1st page.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

@bobstro

Mb its because of firewall settings (yours or your provider's), you can copy link and see it direct.

We are talkink about top_infill_extrustion_width restriction they put in last version of PS. Now you cant set it smaller than layer height, what is strange. This slicer dont work like they think it work))))

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Why1 your slicer overides my firmware settings and how to turn it off?

Why2 your slicer makes mess with starting settings, it flows to increasing duration of start sequence.

Look at slic3r starting part of gcode, its laconic and have nothing useless extra.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @zalntar-a

Why1 your slicer overides my firmware settings and how to turn it off?

The M201, 203, 204 & 205 values are taken from the Printer Settings->Machine limits tab. If the values don't match your printer, change them in that tab so they do. The values that are in there don't look anything like the Mk3 settings. What printer are you using?

Why2 your slicer makes mess with starting settings, it flows to increasing duration of start sequence.

Not sure what's going on, but if I enter temperature settings in my startup gcode, PrusaSlicer does not enter them again. Create a project file of a part created with your settings and zip the 3MF file and upload it so we can compare. 

Look at slic3r starting part of gcode, its laconic and have nothing useless extra.

I don't see your hardware settings in there, so while the gcode is simpler, it doesn't match your printer's physical attributes as well. It is common to manually insert the "extra" M201, 203, 204 & 205 values into startup gcode if the slicer doesn't insert them automatically. I spent a lot of time copying those exact lines into Simplify 3D, ideaMaker, Cura and Slic3r.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @zalntar-a

[...] And on last picture you can see the main differences in quality - Slic3r wins.

All I can see is that you are getting poorer results with your settings. Based on some of your comments above, your settings are a concern. Can you zip and upload a copy of the STL for that part or (better) save a project file with your settings and zip and upload the 3MF?

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @bobstro

Posted by: @zalntar-a

[...] And on last picture you can see the main differences in quality - Slic3r wins.

All I can see is that you are getting poorer results with your settings. Based on some of your comments above, your settings are a concern. Can you zip and upload a copy of the STL for that part or (better) save a project file with your settings and zip and upload the 3MF?

 

I know how to print with better results. This settings are for fastest and strongest print - printer can hardly change directions in time and flow is maximazed. 

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @bobstro

The M201, 203, 204 & 205 values are taken from the Printer Settings->Machine limits tab. If the values don't match your printer, change them in that tab so they do. The values that are in there don't look anything like the Mk3 settings. What printer are you using?

Prusa steel RAMPS1.4 self made. Electronics - China, frame - local lazer.

I have tens of configs for different filaments. Its a useles work to manualy set what is already seted. And I cant set this settings once for all configs because they put Retract in Printer settings (thats redicolous too, retract settings must be in Filament).

 

Not sure what's going on, but if I enter temperature settings in my startup gcode, PrusaSlicer does not enter them again. Create a project file of a part created with your settings and zip the 3MF file and upload it so we can compare. 

I don't see your hardware settings in there, so while the gcode is simpler, it doesn't match your printer's physical attributes as well. It is common to manually insert the "extra" M201, 203, 204 & 205 values into startup gcode if the slicer doesn't insert them automatically. I spent a lot of time copying those exact lines into Simplify 3D, ideaMaker, Cura and Slic3r.

Physical attributes are within firmware inside ArduinoMega of my printer, so they do not need to be aploaded with every gcode - its useles work. I seted them once I tune my printer and they do not needed to be changed until you change Hard of your printer (they can be tuned and easily writed to eeprom). I dont know why you do that with every gcode.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

In PrusaSlicer 2.1 there are retract overrides in each filament profile. You can have them off (each one is individually toggled on/off) to use the printer profile "default", or you can turn them on and specify individually for each filament.

I generally find that the printer profile "defaults" work for most of my filaments. But, I use the overrides for my flexible filaments.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @zalntar-a

Prusa steel RAMPS1.4 self made. Electronics - China, frame - local lazer.

I have tens of configs for different filaments. Its a useles work to manualy set what is already seted. And I cant set this settings once for all configs because they put Retract in Printer settings (thats redicolous too, retract settings must be in Filament).

As @sembazuru notes, this is incorrect. You can enter overrides for retraction settings in filament settings in PrusaSlicer. Check out Filament Settings->Filament Overrides.

Physical attributes are within firmware inside ArduinoMega of my printer, so they do not need to be aploaded with every gcode - its useles work. I seted them once I tune my printer and they do not needed to be changed until you change Hard of your printer (they can be tuned and easily writed to eeprom). I dont know why you do that with every gcode.

Only useless if you intend to print everything with exactly the same settings. I like to maintain "FAST" and "QUALITY" profiles with different jerk & acceleration settings, so having it stored only in non-volatile memory on the printer would be annoying. As already stated: Entering the values in the slicer allows the slicer to make more accurate time estimates, so definitely not useless.

I've looked through the 3MF you uploaded. The reason is that you are getting redundant temperature entries in your gcode is that you placed all of the printer startup gcode under Filament Settings->Custom G-Code instead of the normal Printer Settings->Custom G-Code. As the pop-up help notes, filament custom g-code is only meant for filament-specific settings and is meant for a few lines to be inserted after the normal startup gcode. Since you left the normal startup gcode blank, PrusaSlicer is inserting warmup commands exactly as it should. It then inserts what you specified verbatim as printer startup g-code including all of the warmup commands. Move all of that gcode except the M900 K0.8 to printer settings and it should work the way you expect it to. Do the same with the end gcode as well.

I'm not sure why you can't set infill widths under Print Settings->Advanced->Extrusion width in your uploaded profile, but if I create another profile with the same values, they work as expected.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

And then putting my snark hat on:  for all those "Why is this software so lame and causing me so much trouble" in a few of these posts:  the simple answer is "You get what you paid for."  Tell us again how much Prusa Slicer cost you?

I rant at Prusa firmware because it is buggy and I paid good money for it.   I do not rant at Prusa Slicer because it is a value added freebie that just happened to be available and gets the job of slicing done for me without my having to buy something like Cura.  That it also includes profiles for many different filaments  -- and that bundle of knowledge is invaluable to me because it represents hundreds of hours of labor fine tuning a profile to the hardware I paid for.  So again, Prusa Slicer is a FREE value added bonus for purchasing a Prusa printer.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @sembazuru

In PrusaSlicer 2.1 there are retract overrides in each filament profile. You can have them off (each one is individually toggled on/off) to use the printer profile "default", or you can turn them on and specify individually for each filament.

I generally find that the printer profile "defaults" work for most of my filaments. But, I use the overrides for my flexible filaments.

I know that, but it dubled in Printer settings, so I dont touch them for not to brake something or do smthng worse. PS is messy with dubbled settings and conflicts. They are not fatal but they exist.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @bobstro

Only useless if you intend to print everything with exactly the same settings. I like to maintain "FAST" and "QUALITY" profiles with different jerk & acceleration settings, so having it stored only in non-volatile memory on the printer would be annoying. 

Yes, you must override other overrides to make it work. If you use many different filaments you must have many Printer profiles for each fillament - too much for me.

I've looked through the 3MF you uploaded. The reason is that you are getting redundant temperature entries in your gcode is that you placed all of the printer startup gcode under Filament Settings->Custom G-Code instead of the normal Printer Settings->Custom G-Code. 

As I already wrote, I think that filament settings must be in Filament not in Printer.

I'm not sure why you can't set infill widths under Print Settings->Advanced->Extrusion width in your uploaded profile, but if I create another profile with the same values, they work as expected.

Infill wides in that profile are set to Auto (0 is auto). I dont need specific widths in this print. 

I dont know what you are talking about. These setting works as xpected for me too. I need top_extr_width 0.25 for 0,3 layer height. Try last versions without that restrictions and you ll get better top layer.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @tim-m30

And then putting my snark hat on:  for all those "Why is this software so lame and causing me so much trouble" in a few of these posts:  the simple answer is "You get what you paid for."  Tell us again how much Prusa Slicer cost you?

Thats just ridiculous. Lets close that forum because this app is free and cant be disscused. And Blender, Gimp and other free app's forums must be closed too))))

To buy smthng like Cura? Who tried too sell it to you? Its free)))

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @zalntar-a

Posted by: @tim-m30

And then putting my snark hat on:  for all those "Why is this software so lame and causing me so much trouble" in a few of these posts:  the simple answer is "You get what you paid for."  Tell us again how much Prusa Slicer cost you?

Thats just ridiculous. Lets close that forum because this app is free and cant be disscused. And Blender, Gimp and other free app's forums must be closed too))))

To buy smthng like Cura? Who tried too sell it to you? Its free)))

Posting when tired ... I meant Simplify3D ... that other package.  Oh well.  Oh well.  Continue the rant. lol. 

ps: I read your post, but came away with no answerable question.  So why use are you using the forum?  What questions are you trying to answer?

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @zalntar-a

Posted by: @sembazuru

In PrusaSlicer 2.1 there are retract overrides in each filament profile. You can have them off (each one is individually toggled on/off) to use the printer profile "default", or you can turn them on and specify individually for each filament.

I generally find that the printer profile "defaults" work for most of my filaments. But, I use the overrides for my flexible filaments.

I know that, but it dubled in Printer settings, so I dont touch them for not to brake something or do smthng worse. PS is messy with dubbled settings and conflicts. They are not fatal but they exist.

I'm wondering if there is a language barrier here... Not every term in a language translates correctly to another language. For fun, take a phrase or saying in your native language, translate it to a different language in Google Translate (or a similar service, is AltaVista's BabelFish still around?) and then back to your native language. Often the changes in meaning can be quite surprising and amusing (or frustrating if actually trying to communicate with someone else). 😉

The settings I pointed out aren't redundant settings (what I think you are meaning by "dubbled"), rather overrides or: "If set, use this setting in the filament profile instead of the same setting in the printer profile. If not set use this setting in the printer profile."

This allows you to have one setting that works for most of your filaments and if you decide to adjust something you only have to make the adjustment one place instead of several. But if you have a filament that needs special treatment (like a TPU/TPE) you can specify for that one filament which parameters need to be adjusted. If you feel that you must specify highly customized parameters for every filament, then use the settings in the filament profile.

I think I recall hearing that the PrusaSlicer developers are evaluating other filament specific parameters to provide override settings.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Posted by: @zalntar-a

Yes, you must override other overrides to make it work. If you use many different filaments you must have many Printer profiles for each fillament - too much for me.

As I already wrote, I think that filament settings must be in Filament not in Printer.

Infill wides in that profile are set to Auto (0 is auto). I dont need specific widths in this print. 

I dont know what you are talking about.

Clearly. There is something amiss in the config that you uploaded that causes those settings to be fixed. Normally you can change them. You don't have to change them, but I was just pointing out that it's not normal.

The "problems" you pointed out are all your preferences, not a deficiency with PrusaSlicer. Your issue with filament adjustments is already addressed. You just have to look at the settings. If you PrusaSlicer it the way it is intended, it will give you the results that you described. Just create one set of profiles. Meanwhile, if you want to be more creative, it has the power to support multiple printer, filament and print job profiles.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Again, I tried different settings and these artifacts dont go. Vaze mode.

RE: PrusaSlicer 2.1.0 - FINAL

Default nozzle profiles in Slic3r seems to be abit off:

At 0.25 mm nozzle the first layer width is set to 0.35 mm (140%) with default width 0.25 mm (100%)

at 0.40 mm nozzle the first layer width is set to 0.42 mm (105%) with default width 0.45 mm (112.5%)

at 0.60 mm nozzle the first layer width (and default) is set to 0.65 mm (108%)

Now, I guess a linear relationship might not make sense for a lot of reasons. But is 0.42 mm first layer for 0.40 mm nozzle seems like an outlier, was 0.52 mm (130%) intended? 

 - I mostly had a closer look at the numbers after I ran into some adhesion issues after switching back from 0.25 mm to 0.4 mm nozzle.