Posted by: @ujindesign

Turns out you can't...? https://www.prusa3d.com/category/heatbed-2/ They don't seem to be selling replacement beds. I don't think the bed is something that has a high likelihood of breaking but still, it would in essence brick the entire machine if the heatbed broke since it wouldn't be cost-efficient to ship the entire printer to Czech Republic for a replacement if the heatbed broke outside of warranty. 

Tommy said in a recent Prusa stream that replacement beds will be available as a spare part. Maybe it's not in the store yet. 

Posted by: @hyiger

 

Posted by: @robin_13

Which again, raises the question about repairs?  If you cannot build the printer, does that mean you cannot repair the printer, and Prusa won't be selling spare parts?  A deal killer for me.  Does that mean all those people that want the INDX heads, need to have Prusa make the mod since they may have to work with the bed?

You can buy a replacement bed since it plugs into the power-supply. However you will not be able to buy the L as a kit. Also, the Core One will not have an AC bed upgrade for similar reasons as stated above. 

Turns out you can't...? https://www.prusa3d.com/category/heatbed-2/ They don't seem to be selling replacement beds. I don't think the bed is something that has a high likelihood of breaking but still, it would in essence brick the entire machine if the heatbed broke since it wouldn't be cost-efficient to ship the entire printer to Czech Republic for a replacement if the heatbed broke outside of warranty. 

Posted by: @alphasigma

 

Posted by: @cwbullet

I am arguing, but I do not understand the regulatory issues.  It must be European.  

 

The regulation is not only an "issue" of EU. Try to answer following question:

What is the difference between

• a printer bought from Prusa or any other manufacturer (it doesn't matter if buying directly or via a dealer/reseller) and
• a PC (computer) you assemble yourself with parts you bought yourself (it doesn't matter if you buy all parts from one source/shop/dealer or from different sources because of different prices)?

I bring up the example with a PC, because people are sometime referring to a PC - "I can build a PC with a power supply...why not building a printer with a a/c bed...?"

 

Posted by: @hyiger

 

Posted by: @cwbullet

I am not an expert in that area. But there are no laws preventing me from working on my circuit breaker.  I just have to do it within the code.  

Is it a smart choice?  That is debatable.  I would say no.  

It's probably not an issue in the US but Tommy mentioned that Prusa didn't want to deal with getting certification in each jurisdiction: US, CA, UK, EU, JP etc etc etc so they simply decided: "No Core L kits" Maybe in the future PrintedSolid could (in theory) introduce a kit for the US market only. Who knows?

Electrical safety rules on what you can do as a private person are not aligned within EU countries either, quite a complicated subject. Its probably alot easier with CE etc on a complete machine, since those rules are more aligned. 

Posted by: @cwbullet

I am arguing, but I do not understand the regulatory issues.  It must be European.  

 

The regulation is not only an "issue" of EU. Try to answer following question:

What is the difference between

• a printer bought from Prusa or any other manufacturer (it doesn't matter if buying directly or via a dealer/reseller) and
• a PC (computer) you assemble yourself with parts you bought yourself (it doesn't matter if you buy all parts from one source/shop/dealer or from different sources because of different prices)?

I bring up the example with a PC, because people are sometime referring to a PC - "I can build a PC with a power supply...why not building a printer with a a/c bed...?"

Posted by: @hyiger

 

Posted by: @cwbullet

I am not an expert in that area. But there are no laws preventing me from working on my circuit breaker.  I just have to do it within the code.  

Is it a smart choice?  That is debatable.  I would say no.  

It's probably not an issue in the US but Tommy mentioned that Prusa didn't want to deal with getting certification in each jurisdiction: US, CA, UK, EU, JP etc etc etc so they simply decided: "No Core L kits" Maybe in the future PrintedSolid could (in theory) introduce a kit for the US market only. Who knows?

Posted by: @cwbullet

I am not an expert in that area. But there are no laws preventing me from working on my circuit breaker.  I just have to do it within the code.  

Is it a smart choice?  That is debatable.  I would say no.  

It's probably not an issue in the US but Tommy mentioned that Prusa didn't want to deal with getting certification in each jurisdiction: US, CA, UK, EU, JP etc etc etc so they simply decided: "No Core L kits" Maybe in the future PrintedSolid could (in theory) introduce a kit for the US market only. Who knows?

Posted by: @jurgen-7

Posted by: @cwbullet

I am arguing, but I do not understand the regulatory issues.  It must be European.  

What would be examples of mains-powered Class 1 devices that are currently sold as a kit in the US?

I am not an expert in that area. But there are no laws preventing me from working on my circuit breaker.  I just have to do it within the code.  

Is it a smart choice?  That is debatable.  I would say no.  

I am arguing, but I do not understand the regulatory issues.  It must be European.  

What would be examples of mains-powered Class 1 devices that are currently sold as a kit in the US?

Posted by: @hyiger

 

Posted by: @robin_13

Which again, raises the question about repairs?  If you cannot build the printer, does that mean you cannot repair the printer, and Prusa won't be selling spare parts?  A deal killer for me.  Does that mean all those people that want the INDX heads, need to have Prusa make the mod since they may have to work with the bed?

You can buy a replacement bed since it plugs into the power-supply. However you will not be able to buy the L as a kit. Also, the Core One will not have an AC bed upgrade for similar reasons as stated above.