Posted by: @mnentwig

 

Posted by: @hyiger

 Then either buy a Core One+ kit or source the parts and build a Voron. 

Seriously, trying this as a first FDM printer would have been a very bad idea. Too many balls to juggle (and obviously, I have to print parts myself and those need to be fairly precise in ABS/ASA or the docking mechanism will go bonkers).

In that sense, Prusa's value proposition of a "curated" - and simplified - kit still holds ("simplified" - not having to touch the firmware. No endpoint switches. "Blunt-tools-only" approach to bed leveling - Voron's "quad-gantry-leveling" is a precise mechanical ballet enjoyable to watch while it works. Once it works ... No selection of hotend or extruder, just pick nozzles... the list could go on.

The Core One build is, all after all, considerably more user-friendly. And paying for that makes (IMHO - not regretting the core One purchase) sense.

Absolutely agree. The difference between building a Voron and building a Prusa is in my opinion (kind of): Building a Voron is more for when you want the 3D printer itself to be your hobby. Building a Prusa is (relatively) more for when the 3D printing is the hobby but you also want to get a deeper understanding of and learn your 3D printer. After I built my MK4 and the Enclosure, I felt quite comfortable in returning to it to maintain it or do some slight modifications, but the complexity level between Prusa kit and Voron build is on a different level. 

I haven't decided if my next printer will be a Voron 2.4 or a Prusa Core One L. There are pros and cons between both, but I think one of the biggest cons for the Voron is the cost. In Sweden a Voron 2.4 costs as much as a Prusa Core One L, and that would be after supporting a Chinese company (I think) for the Voron kit instead of supporting European-made Prusa. 

Posted by: @hyiger

 Then either buy a Core One+ kit or source the parts and build a Voron. 

Just be sure to keep an eye on questions of design language and color scheme.

Or it'll look like mine :D

Seriously, trying this as a first FDM printer would have been a very bad idea. Too many balls to juggle (and obviously, I have to print parts myself and those need to be fairly precise in ABS/ASA or the docking mechanism will go bonkers).

In that sense, Prusa's value proposition of a "curated" - and simplified - kit still holds ("simplified" - not having to touch the firmware. No endpoint switches. "Blunt-tools-only" approach to bed leveling - Voron's "quad-gantry-leveling" is a precise mechanical ballet enjoyable to watch while it works. Once it works ... No selection of hotend or extruder, just pick nozzles... the list could go on.

The Core One build is, all after all, considerably more user-friendly. And paying for that makes (IMHO - not regretting the core One purchase) sense.

Posted by: @andio

I hope the Core One L will be as upgrade-able as the Core One, even if it has high voltage AC bed heater. If or when there will be an + or S version (I guess Prusa wont be using S as an upgraded model number now that it could mean the opposite of L, as in size, in this case)

I'm sure there will be various upgrades. Besides the INDX, the next logical one would be an active chamber heater. 

Posted by: @robin_13

Then either buy a Core One+ kit or source the parts and build a Voron.

So you are saying the Voron has a INDX version coming out that is the same build design as a core one?

Core one is not a 'L'

 

The INDX was first demonstrated on a Voron. So yes, the INDX will work on a Trident or V0. 

So you are saying the Voron has a INDX version coming out that is the same build design as a core one?

Core one is not a 'L'

Posted by: @philoz-2

I only buy kits.

As a mechanical Engineeer I want to understand the construction and become a feeling for possible issues.

For plug & play I can buy a Bambu. Something I want to prevent.

Then either buy a Core One+ kit or source the parts and build a Voron. 

As a mechanical Engineeer I want to understand the construction and become a feeling for possible issues.

For plug & play I can buy a Bambu. Something I want to prevent.