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                        <title>RE: MMU stops feeding filament before pinch roller grabs it</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2025 06:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Yes.
When you buy the mmu3 new the parts come with it.

When the mmu is used sold mostly the nextruder parts are not included.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Yes.
When you buy the mmu3 new the parts come with it.

When the mmu is used sold mostly the nextruder parts are not included.]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/prusa-core-one-hardware-firmware-and-software-help/">Hardware, firmware and software help</category>                        <dc:creator>Alienbliep</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: MMU stops feeding filament before pinch roller grabs it</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 22:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Posted by: @drtomflint Where can I find the New mod?  Is this a part I can print?The STLs are available to print - PC-CF is recommended.memory I think you&#039;ll need a magnet, an o-ring, and a ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote data-userid="91626" data-postid="761269" data-mention="drtomflint"><div class="wpforo-post-quote-author"><strong>Posted by: @drtomflint </strong></div><p>Where can I find the New mod?  Is this a part I can print?</p></blockquote><p>The STLs are available to print - PC-CF is recommended. </p><p>https://www.printables.com/model/531604-mmu3-printable-parts/files</p><p>From memory I think you'll need a magnet, an o-ring, and a couple of different length screws for the idler.</p><p>Instructions <a href="https://help.prusa3d.com/guide/9d-core-one-nextruder-mod_111779" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/prusa-core-one-hardware-firmware-and-software-help/">Hardware, firmware and software help</category>                        <dc:creator>Chris Hill</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: MMU stops feeding filament before pinch roller grabs it</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 22:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Posted by: @alienbliep But it doesn&#039;t look like your nextruder is modified for mmu. (sensor + gear case)Good spot!]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> </p><blockquote data-userid="590329" data-postid="761267" data-mention="alienbliep"><div class="wpforo-post-quote-author"><strong> Posted by: @alienbliep </strong></div><p>But it doesn't look like your nextruder is modified for mmu. (sensor + gear case)</p></blockquote><p>Good spot!</p>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/prusa-core-one-hardware-firmware-and-software-help/">Hardware, firmware and software help</category>                        <dc:creator>Chris Hill</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: MMU stops feeding filament before pinch roller grabs it</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 21:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks Alienbliep!  That does look like I have the Old version Nextruder.Where can I find the New mod?  Is this a part I can print?Regarding the tension springs, I think I have tried every p...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alienbliep!  That does look like I have the Old version Nextruder.</p><p>Where can I find the New mod?  Is this a part I can print?</p><p>Regarding the tension springs, I think I have tried every possible variation from very loose to quite tight.</p>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/prusa-core-one-hardware-firmware-and-software-help/">Hardware, firmware and software help</category>                        <dc:creator>DrTomFlint</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: MMU stops feeding filament before pinch roller grabs it</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 20:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Little help maybe, These spring tension screws need to be straight with the end of the thread.  This maybe helps becasue filament does not easy push the sensor to loaded state because spring...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little help maybe,</p><p> </p><p>These spring tension screws need to be straight with the end of the thread. </p><p> </p><p>This maybe helps becasue filament does not easy push the sensor to loaded state because springs hold it back.</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/08/c7b0c100-schermafbeelding-2025-08-16-221937.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-179542" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/08/c7b0c100-schermafbeelding-2025-08-16-221937.png" alt="" width="398" height="215" /></a> <a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/08/1e66d667-schermafbeelding-2025-08-16-222206.png"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-179543" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/08/1e66d667-schermafbeelding-2025-08-16-222206.png" alt="" width="529" height="417" /></a></p><p> </p><p>But it doesn't look like your nextruder is modified for mmu. (sensor + gear case)</p><p>old</p><p><a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/08/85db9da0-schermafbeelding-2025-08-16-222447.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-179544" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/08/85db9da0-schermafbeelding-2025-08-16-222447.png" alt="" width="293" height="315" /></a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/08/85db9da0-schermafbeelding-2025-08-16-222624.png">New<img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-179545" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/08/85db9da0-schermafbeelding-2025-08-16-222624.png" alt="" width="402" height="187" /></a></p>
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                        <title>RE: MMU stops feeding filament before pinch roller grabs it</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 16:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[There is a way to see the calibration values.  Can anyone confirm these are reasonable numbers?  NoFilament value: 1788786 and HasFilament: PASS value: 561346If these numbers are Ok then may...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a way to see the calibration values.  Can anyone confirm these are reasonable numbers?  NoFilament value: 1788786 and HasFilament: PASS value: 561346</p><p>If these numbers are Ok then maybe there is noise on the filament sensor, possibly overshoot or some other dynamic of the signal that makes it trigger too soon?</p><p>Procedure:</p><p>Have a USB stick inserted.  Turn on Settings | System | Save Logs to File.  Run the calibration.  Turn off Settings | System | Save Logs to File.  Eject the USB stick, put it into a laptop and locate the logs.txt file.</p><p>3543.259s  Started logging to file: /usb/log.txt</p><p>3572.911s  Started</p><p>3576.073s  user pressed continue</p><p>3587.831s  calibrating</p><p>3587.952s  Calibrating NoFilament value: <span style="color: #ff0000">1788786</span></p><p>3589.911s  calibrated</p><p>3589.911s  calibrated</p><p>3603.747s  insertion check has filament</p><p>3608.761s  user confirmed filament is inserted</p><p>3608.811s  calibrating with filament inserted</p><p>3608.891s  Calibrating HasFilament: PASS value: <span style="color: #ff0000">561346</span></p><p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/prusa-core-one-hardware-firmware-and-software-help/">Hardware, firmware and software help</category>                        <dc:creator>DrTomFlint</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: MMU stops feeding filament before pinch roller grabs it</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 16:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I checked the Settings Hardware Printhead Nextuder and see that it was already set for , set it back to  did the filament sensor re-calibration.  Power on/off.  Set back to ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked the Settings Hardware Printhead Nextuder and see that it was already set for , set it back to  did the filament sensor re-calibration.  Power on/off.  Set back to  did the filament re-calibration.</p><p>What I see is that during Stock filament calibration the extruder motor is freewheeling and I can insert the filament all the way to the hot end.</p><p>During MMU filament calibration the extruder motor is controlled.  When the screen asks you to insert the filament, the extruder motor is running and the gear is turning.  But the motor and gear stop when the filament is just barely inside the pinch.  This is where it collects data on what is the value of the sensor to indicate "fully inserted".  Since the motor is controlled, you cannot push the fiber any further into the hot end.  The picture shows where the filament sits at that time.  </p><p>Looking at the Info | Sensor Info | Filament Sensor we can see that with no filament the sensor is around 1800000, when the filament first touches the sensor and is not yet in the pinch we see 572000, and when it is fully loaded into the hot end 254000.  </p><p>Is there any way to see what values MMU Filament Sensor Calibration uses?  Despite many attempts, I still see the filament stop much too soon and not get picked up by the pinch.</p><p>My suspicion is the calibrated value is too high causing the sensor to trigger before the filament is inserted enough, like the picture in the original post.</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/08/60349a4c-pxl_20250816_154100302-scaled.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-179539" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2025/08/60349a4c-pxl_20250816_154100302-600x500.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a> Position of filament loaded during MMU calibration</p>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/prusa-core-one-hardware-firmware-and-software-help/">Hardware, firmware and software help</category>                        <dc:creator>DrTomFlint</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: MMU stops feeding filament before pinch roller grabs it</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 07:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[My understanding of the need to tell the printer that you have done the MMU Nextruder mod is that this will make the Nextruder gear turn while you are loading filament.  The non-MMU filament...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding of the need to tell the printer that you have done the MMU Nextruder mod is that this will make the Nextruder gear turn while you are loading filament.  The non-MMU filament sensor is easier to trigger by simply pushing filament into the fitting, but the sensor in the MMU conversion needs the filament to actually start moving around the gear before it will move the sensor far enough to trigger it.  If the gear isn't moving, it's very difficult for the end of the filament to start sliding round the serrated gear - it CAN be done with a lot of force, but by having the gear rotate it becomes a lot easier.  This is why you have to manually begin the 'Load Filament' process with the MMU Nextruder, instead of letting it start automatically by inserting filament into the fitting.</p>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/prusa-core-one-hardware-firmware-and-software-help/">Hardware, firmware and software help</category>                        <dc:creator>Chris Hill</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: MMU stops feeding filament before pinch roller grabs it</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 00:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[In your picture I&#039;d say that filament is far enough in for the Nextruder gear to take over.  Have you definitely told the printer that you have done the MMU Nextruder mod?Settings -&gt; Hard...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your picture I'd say that filament is far enough in for the Nextruder gear to take over.  Have you definitely told the printer that you have done the MMU Nextruder mod?</p><p>Settings -&gt; Hardware -&gt; Printhead -&gt; Nextruder</p><p>The ramming is controlled in the filament settings in Prusaslicer.  In the Advanced section there is a button called 'Ramming settings...' that opens up a configuration window.  I had some success in making the rammed tips of my ABS filaments more (totally!) reliable for unloading and loading by reducing the ramming time from the default 1.25s to 0.5s.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2025 22:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Firmware 6.3.4+10511Bootloader 2.4.1MMU 3.0.3Buddy 47]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firmware 6.3.4+10511</p><p>Bootloader 2.4.1</p><p>MMU 3.0.3</p><p>Buddy 47</p><p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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