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I went for the CoreOne+ kit; shipping is horrible but it's for the stickers. Now I wait for INDX.
So you paid $30+ just for the stickers? At this point, I would advise getting a working printer first.
RE: What does the + mean?
I went for the CoreOne+ kit; shipping is horrible but it's for the stickers. Now I wait for INDX.
I actually pressed the buy button on the kit earlier today. I added a spool of pretty filament and a brass brush so the shipping wouldn't seem so absolutely ridiculous.
What I am hoping for is a link in the kit leads to 6.4.0 firmware for my Core One... lol. Who cares if the extruder moves to move a non-existent louver lever.
RE: What does the + mean?
If you have MMU3 installed then new "plus" option is indeed almost only sticker - ok, stickers and those two parts which move top grill. New "switch" parts are not needed, also not new filament holder.
RE: What does the + mean?
hmmm... The filament sensor mod is to be printed in PETG and not PC as before. I guess that means the 2 Bowden tube ends directly meet. Otherwise I have filaments what would wear down PETG in a heartbeat.
If I recall correctly, the original filament sensor parts look like PETG as well. Seems to me that Prusa used PCCF only for parts under strong mechanical load (all belt-related mounts) or where they wanted the matte look for cosmetic reasons (e.g. the Nextruder covers).
When wear resistance is required, PETG is actually not bad. See this paper for example which assesses materials for shoe soles. PETG (material #5) comes out second in wear resistance, while exhibiting low friction at the same time.
RE: What does the + mean?
I'm not going to bother with the + upgrade.
I know it's a good few months until I'll see the INDX gear shipped, but that more or less renders all the + parts obsolete, unless I'm missing something ?
RE: What does the + mean?
I'm not going to bother with the + upgrade.
Well, although i mostly do PLA and PETG i do print with ASA occasionally, and since it's only "occasionally" i (almost) always forget to close (or open afterwards) the grill, so i'll print and install auto-grill parts. I'll print them with ASA and see if it's ok.
I know it's a good few months until I'll see the INDX gear shipped, but that more or less renders all the + parts obsolete, unless I'm missing something ?
Good question... from what i see ptfe tubes will go into indx parts from the top, so real question is: will core one become non-suitable for asa, abs and similar filaments? Since it'll be open at the top...?
RE: What does the + mean?
I wonder how the automatic venting will work if I want to still use the 18mm extended print area, maybe make the vent controlling parts easily removable/adjustable so it doesnt hit them. Otherwise the + will be a downgrade in print area which isnt great. Will have a look at the filament sensor thing though, its one of few things i dislike with the C1 atm.
RE: What does the + mean?
so real question is: will core one become non-suitable for asa, abs and similar filaments? Since it'll be open at the top...?
Hopefully they've thought of this.
I've asked the question over on Discord so hopefully someone at Bondtech will respond.
RE: What does the + mean?
They have already shown it with a raised cover at FormNext. The same ugly "tank turret" they use with the MMU3 on the Core One. I hope either Prusa or someone else comes up with a nicer solution, but the current one should at least work.
RE: What does the + mean?
I concur
I'm not going to bother with the + upgrade.
I know it's a good few months until I'll see the INDX gear shipped, but that more or less renders all the + parts obsolete, unless I'm missing something ?
RE: What does the + mean?
They have already shown it with a raised cover at FormNext. The same ugly "tank turret" they use with the MMU3 on the Core One. I hope either Prusa or someone else comes up with a nicer solution, but the current one should at least work.
Yeah but does that 100% cover the top?
RE: What does the + mean?
Yeah it does, I just checked.
So there should be no problem keeping the printer enclosed with INDX then.
All in all Im happy with the entire setup, as long as all the 'will be included in production' parts that were missing at form next, (load cell, filament sensors, etc)
Only gripe is the boxy lid thing, If they can improve that then great...I get a feeling that wont be improved though, I guess thats Prusa's wheelhouse and they seem a bit blind to things like that.
RE: What does the + mean?
Only gripe is the boxy lid thing, If they can improve that then great...I get a feeling that wont be improved though, I guess thats Prusa's wheelhouse and they seem a bit blind to things like that.
Yes, it seems like a bit of a relapse. With the Core One, while I would not call it "sleek", it is obvious that somebody has thought about a clean, presentable design. But with the INDX cover, it's not "form follows function", but "function!"
We will probably have to buy the cover separately anyway. Bondtech's spec table lists bed sensing, filament sensing and filament routing, but does not mention a cover. So one might as well get a third-party or community-designed variant if Prusa does not come up with something nicer.
RE: What does the + mean?
Only gripe is the boxy lid thing, If they can improve that then great...I get a feeling that wont be improved though, I guess thats Prusa's wheelhouse and they seem a bit blind to things like that.
Yes, it seems like a bit of a relapse. With the Core One, while I would not call it "sleek", it is obvious that somebody has thought about a clean, presentable design. But with the INDX cover, it's not "form follows function", but "function!"
We will probably have to buy the cover separately anyway. Bondtech's spec table lists bed sensing, filament sensing and filament routing, but does not mention a cover. So one might as well get a third-party or community-designed variant if Prusa does not come up with something nicer.
Yeah it absolutely reeks of paying a 3rd party to design the C1, then having a go at doing the lid themselves 😂
I can live with that though, ideal scenario would be an acrylic lid so I can see whats going on during a print.
As you say though, there are bound to be community/3rd party solutions available if Prusa/Bondtech don't offer anything else.
But of all the things to be displeased about it's a pretty minor aesthetic thing.
RE: What does the + mean?
I have this cover because of the mmu3. Should be a cheap part, because the complete mmu3 upgrade kit costs 49€ with all other parts (and big metal part)
RE: What does the + mean?
I have this cover because of the mmu3. Should be a cheap part, because the complete mmu3 upgrade kit costs 49€ with all other parts (and big metal part)
Going by the photos it looks like a vacuum-formed part, i.e. made from a flat sheet by pulling it into a single-piece mold. That would be pretty cheap to make, with mold costs much lower than injection molding.
But with the same technology one should be able to produce a nicer shape which runs the whole width of the printer, instead of the current "bump". And make it from transparent material so you have a way to see the print (with the INDX tools largely blocking the front view). And move the vent grille to one or both sides to give a better view through the front of the lid.
RE: What does the + mean?
I have this cover because of the mmu3. Should be a cheap part, because the complete mmu3 upgrade kit costs 49€ with all other parts (and big metal part)
Which upgrade? Complete MMU3 kit costs 10 times more…
RE: What does the + mean?
Mmu3 mk4(s) to Core one mmu3 with top cover
I have this cover because of the mmu3. Should be a cheap part, because the complete mmu3 upgrade kit costs 49€ with all other parts (and big metal part)
Which upgrade? Complete MMU3 kit costs 10 times more…
RE: What does the + mean?
I have this cover because of the mmu3. Should be a cheap part, because the complete mmu3 upgrade kit costs 49€ with all other parts (and big metal part)
Which upgrade? Complete MMU3 kit costs 10 times more…
The conversion kit, if you already have an MMU3 from a bedslinger and want to adapt it to the Core One:
https://www.prusa3d.com/product/original-prusa-mmu3-enclosed-for-core-one-conversion-kit/
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Aha... that one... thanks.
But... i just installed auto-grill opener and started my first print with PLA. I intentionally closed grill. Nothing happened - grill didn't open. When it should open?
Is there anything else to be done?
I did set it to auto in settings and i installed "thing" to the left two screws, as it was pointed out by users.