RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
polycarbonate, even with glue did not like the Prusa satin sheet, had no issues whatsoever with the cryogrip-glacier.
granted, that’s a pretty small piece, but it definitely had no problems adhering….
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Right, managed to get 2 ordered straight from China, at a much more palatable price than Amazon UK was offering...around half the price.
My only question is longevity of these plates, I mean at the price compared to the Prusa's I cant really expect these things to work for years, but just wondering if anyone can comment on how these are likely to hold up after say, six or 12 months?
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
I’ve got one in the H2 D and I have printed all sorts of stuff on it, and it has yet to show any obvious signs of wear. I’ve actually used the one of my core one quite a bit before I put on the nozzle cleaning attachment. With the remix it’ll now stay on there again…. The only thing I occasionally find is that I have to clean it with soap and water.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
What does the first layer appearance look like with these? any chance of a close up?
Is it closer to Prusa Satin or Smooth plate appearance ?
Sorry for the questions/demands 😂 Its the one thing I really like about the satin plate is the first layer appearance. I find for PETG adhesion on the satin plate is very good, but for certain matte PLA I find adhesion can be an issue, especially for big/tall prints.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
What does the first layer appearance look like with these? any chance of a close up?
Is it closer to Prusa Satin or Smooth plate appearance ?
Sorry for the questions/demands 😂 Its the one thing I really like about the satin plate is the first layer appearance. I find for PETG adhesion on the satin plate is very good, but for certain matte PLA I find adhesion can be an issue, especially for big/tall prints.
Interesting question though. It's definitely more of a satin plate in appearance. I do a comparison print later, one on each plate.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
What does the first layer appearance look like with these? any chance of a close up?
Is it closer to Prusa Satin or Smooth plate appearance ?
Sorry for the questions/demands 😂 Its the one thing I really like about the satin plate is the first layer appearance. I find for PETG adhesion on the satin plate is very good, but for certain matte PLA I find adhesion can be an issue, especially for big/tall prints.
Interesting question though. It's definitely more of a satin plate in appearance. I do a comparison print later, one on each plate.
Cool cheers mate.
One last question 😂
Are you printing with the plate cooler than previous Prusa plates ?
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What does the first layer appearance look like with these? any chance of a close up?
Is it closer to Prusa Satin or Smooth plate appearance ?
Sorry for the questions/demands 😂 Its the one thing I really like about the satin plate is the first layer appearance. I find for PETG adhesion on the satin plate is very good, but for certain matte PLA I find adhesion can be an issue, especially for big/tall prints.
Interesting question though. It's definitely more of a satin plate in appearance. I do a comparison print later, one on each plate.
Cool cheers mate.
One last question 😂
Are you printing with the plate cooler than previous Prusa plates ?
I tested this and PLA/PETG can run with a 50C bed temp no adhesion issues. For the other filaments I've been using whatever the manufacturer recommends. I have yet to find a material that doesn't stick to the plate. It's insane. As promised all of my Prusa plates are now the closet. Even the "special" PA and PP plates. The only other plate I use now is a generic textured plate I picked up for $20 that is way better than the Prusa textured plate (which is also in said box).
My only criticism of the Cryo plate is that it gives a grainy finish. Somewhere between a smooth and textured plate. Personally though I like it. But if you want a super-smooth finish for aesthetic reasons then I suppose Satin or PEI smooth still has it's place. For me, don't really care. I did a comparison left is Cryo and right is Satin with Prusament PETG:
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
One thing I noticed is I don't have to clean this plate as often as the satin plate. The satin plate required an alcohol rub down between prints and then a dish soap and water cleaning about once a week. I also had to keep the glue sticks handy for certain prints and use brims. The Cryo's are cheap enough (for me in the states) that it just doesn't make any sense to continue with Prusa plates.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
That’s great, looking forward to trying this out. I’m happy with a textured finish, most of my parts are purely functional and I’ve never liked a smooth appearance.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
One thing I noticed is I don't have to clean this plate as often as the satin plate. The satin plate required an alcohol rub down between prints and then a dish soap and water cleaning about once a week. I also had to keep the glue sticks handy for certain prints and use brims. The Cryo's are cheap enough (for me in the states) that it just doesn't make any sense to continue with Prusa plates.
Having said that, the cryo plate doesn't show fingerprints like the Prusa one (helpfully?) does so I still clean mine between prints just in case.
FWIW I still use both, and use the Prusa as the default, but find the cryo excellent overall
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
I have only two days of experience with the Core One and the Glacier build plate. My question about printing PLA and PETG with the lower bed temperature: Are you making a custom profile in some way, or are you simply going into a print-time tuning menu and dialing down the bed temperature?
I have printer about 6 things just fine with defaults, at full/normal temp, but was curious to try the lower bed temp, and wanted to learn the best way to do that.
Thanks,
Neal
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Hi Neal I've not modified any of the profiles to lower the temperature. It's been my go-to for filament with CF in it, and any that recommend brims like transparent and silk (generally without adding a brim). I've yet to have a print fail on it, in contrast silk and transparent have on occasion on the Prusa satin. I've been using the profiles provided, aside from one I made for a filament that didn't exist in the library, and I dialed that in just as it said without tweaking.
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I have only two days of experience with the Core One and the Glacier build plate. My question about printing PLA and PETG with the lower bed temperature: Are you making a custom profile in some way, or are you simply going into a print-time tuning menu and dialing down the bed temperature?
I have printer about 6 things just fine with defaults, at full/normal temp, but was curious to try the lower bed temp, and wanted to learn the best way to do that.
Thanks,
Neal
When you select the filament in PrusaSlicer, you can edit the preset and under the Filaments tab, set the bed temperature. This is temporary unless you elect to save it which will then store it under the user profile so you can use for next time.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
I managed to snag another one for £7 on Aliexpress last night, I hadn't been on there for a while so they offered me one for 60% off.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
I managed to snag another one for £7 on Aliexpress last night, I hadn't been on there for a while so they offered me one for 60% off.
I just grabbed a spare for myself. I had previously printed a holder for up to 6 sheets. I just chucked it and several of my Prusa plates into the recycling bin. Hanging on the PA and PP plates but probably don't need those anymore either.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Just got my Glacier sheet, gave it a wipe with alcohol and tried my first PC Blend print on it, Prusa slicer warned me about poor bed adhesion and no supports but I thought lets give it a go as it will curl being 70mm long, 15mm wide three perimeters 15% infill and a hole through the middle and indeed it did but it did not detach fully, in fact right at the end of the print I expected to be able to just break the last bit of adhesion by giving it a push, but it has remained stuck fast albeit with the very ends slightly curled up. The anomaly on one of the layers is most likely when the corner started to lift as I noticed it about the same time.
Needless to say I watched this one like a hawk!.
But initial impressions are good, letting it cool down and see how well it detaches. The initial purge is stuck well too, I'm not going to tug anything yet.
Normal people believe that if it is not broke, do not fix it. Engineers believe that if it is not broke, it does not have enough features yet.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
Just got my Glacier sheet, gave it a wipe with alcohol and tried my first PC Blend print on it, Prusa slicer warned me about poor bed adhesion and no supports but I thought lets give it a go as it will curl being 70mm long, 15mm wide three perimeters 15% infill and a hole through the middle and indeed it did but it did not detach fully, in fact right at the end of the print I expected to be able to just break the last bit of adhesion by giving it a push, but it has remained stuck fast albeit with the very ends slightly curled up. The anomaly on one of the layers is most likely when the corner started to lift as I noticed it about the same time.
Needless to say I watched this one like a hawk!.
But initial impressions are good, letting it cool down and see how well it detaches. The initial purge is stuck well too, I'm not going to tug anything yet.
I've not tried PC Blend but PC CF will most definitely warp if the cool down period is not controlled. I've been ignoring all of the poor bed adhesion warnings with success so far and have yet to reach for a glue stick or even attach a brim. I might try some of the various warp torture tests and see. Regardless, I don't see a need to use a different sheet unless I want to change the texture.
Noticed that PLA sticks a bit too well. I've set the bed temp to 50C. I'll try with it off even and see what happens.
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If only PC CF wasn't a proverbial unicorn, right next to Unobtanium!, been trying to get this myself for weeks, but alas.....
I want to print a full set of spares, or at least critical spares.
The PC Blend came right off the sheet without any issue once it had cooled down, no damage to the sheet and a nice satin finish on the bottom of the print.
Now to try something else bigger.
Normal people believe that if it is not broke, do not fix it. Engineers believe that if it is not broke, it does not have enough features yet.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
If only PC CF wasn't a proverbial unicorn, right next to Unobtanium!, been trying to get this myself for weeks, but alas.....
I want to print a full set of spares, or at least critical spares.
For sure! I managed to snag a roll but it sold out in 1 day! So the very first thing I did was print all the potential spares: belt pulley tensioner, fan shroud. Basically anything that I could think of that could possibly break. Before that I tried IEMAI PC CF but it was crap. The layer adhesion was abysmal and the parts super brittle. I tried using their temps, Prusa's temps, annealing the parts. Prusa PC CF is definitely the better filament. The only problem is that I think every Core One owner is trying to buy a roll of it. Or perhaps it's rare because Prusa needs it for there own production.
RE: The Cryogrip Pro Glacier plate is an excellent cheaper alternative to the Satin plate with one minor caveat on the Core One
This plate seems great for PLA or PETG, but I have no problems with these filaments on the satin or smooth plates. It’s printing ASA or PC that I’m interested.
I don’t want to rain in your parade guys, but that picture of the PC print is far from encouraging. This a relatively small model only 15 mm. wide with a hole all across the length and it warped enough to deform the print. I can do better with a regular smooth plate and adhesive ( 3Dlac, Dimafix ).
Not saying that this isn’t a very interesting product, but more tests need to be done with troublesome stuff like ABS, ASA, PC, PA..