RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
*heavy breathing*
5 tools PETG, 5 tools PLA .2 nozzle, 1 for flex/pva support ...
dang it, now I want it even more ...
(Filament spools are going to be an issue ... maybe I need a rack above it with 3x Sunlu S4 Pro ... And a ladder to get to them ;P)
Wait... what ?
Has there been an announcement or something ?
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Wait... what ?
Has there been an announcement or something ?
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Wait... what ?
Has there been an announcement or something ?
Ah I thought something official had been announced, not just speculation.
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Ah I thought something official had been announced, not just speculation.
Not yet 😉
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Waiting to see how much all this is gonna cost, and what the upgrade path looks like......!
The real issue I’ve got is if it ends up being another thousand or $1200, that’s the original cost of the printer to begin with.
of course I’m gonna wanna see what the implementation from prusa is like, versus the vortex system from Bambu.
Also, it’s kind of a question of who gets to market first… I might be more inclined to do the core one if it turns out the bambu will be later in their implementation.
I had truly thought that I liked the core one and Prusia slicer more than Bambu, But after screwing around with the MMU3 and how things are done in the slicer… The other solution is a lot more elegant.
If it turns out, I can order the INDX and get it sometime in Q1… I’ll probably do that. If it turns out, it’s like ordering the MMU3 for the core one and it takes more or less three months for me to get it after I order it… And it was supposed to be available… Then I’ll probably skip it, blow up the core one, and stay with my H2 D that actually works in a manner that doesn’t suggest things were an afterthought.
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
INDX only has one tool. The nozzles themselves are heated via induction and are super simple which is why they're only 35 mm wide. On a convention floor the Bondtech dude said something like a few hundred for the extruder part some months ago (of which there's one) and 35 bucks per nozzle. That may or may not be the actual price next year when this comes out, but hopefully they could sell those cheaper to a manufacturer in bulk.
Honestly, also, I would consider the INDX more of a downgrade than an upgrade for a Prusa Xl. The XL has five full tools. Putting the INDX on a Core sounds like a great plan, but the XL? Not so much, in my opinion. The main draws of the INDX in my opinion are that it's really cheap (since it's a "nozzle changer", not a tool changer) and that the nozzles are so slim you can fit a buttload of them on a moderate sized printer.
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I just don't understand why Prusa came out with the Core One 1 year ago with features that were on CoreXY printers 4-5 years ago and not an a smaller (and cheaper) version of the XL. It should have been a Core One with IDK, an IDEX or maybe a 2 head changer. Basically they should have skipped the MK4 and gone straight from MK3 to CoreXY.
- Bob Marley
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
I think most likely preorder start date is 18th November. Most likely delivery 4.5 months later end 1Q26 ( 31st March)
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Maybe they knew what Bondtech weee working on. An 8 tool INDX on a C1 is a pretty attractive prospect.
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Maybe they knew what Bondtech weee working on. An 8 tool INDX on a C1 is a pretty attractive prospect.
I would be happy with just a 2 extruder Core One and not necessarily a tool changer. I have 0 desire for multi-color.
- Bob Marley
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
I have no big needs for a multicolor setup but I'd order an 8 tooled upgrade for my c1
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
I think the sweet spot for INDX is 5+ tools. For only 2 tools I would tend towards IDEX or an H2D like dual extruder.
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
One thing, that many of us forget, that its not just colors or materials, but indicates nozzle sizes and nozzle material you can choose from. I would definitely go for a maxed out config because of that and store my nozzles inside the machine 🙂
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Probably because making a smaller XL doesn't remove enough of the really expensive parts to make sense. It does makes total sense to me they would pivot many of the same parts from their MK4 line to a CoreXY. INDX seems like the perfect upgrade to the CORE One to "beat" all of the filament swappers and in a lot of ways be a better solution (on paper) than Vortex.
I just don't understand why Prusa came out with the Core One 1 year ago with features that were on CoreXY printers 4-5 years ago and not an a smaller (and cheaper) version of the XL. It should have been a Core One with IDK, an IDEX or maybe a 2 head changer. Basically they should have skipped the MK4 and gone straight from MK3 to CoreXY.
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Probably because making a smaller XL doesn't remove enough of the really expensive parts to make sense. It does makes total sense to me they would pivot many of the same parts from their MK4 line to a CoreXY. INDX seems like the perfect upgrade to the CORE One to "beat" all of the filament swappers and in a lot of ways be a better solution (on paper) than Vortex.
All to give me a pretty vanilla CoreXY that could have been built 5 years ago. Anyway, let's see how it goes. I've preordered a SnapMaker U1 but I can always cancel it if Prusa hits a home run with the INDX. If it's substantially delayed (or doesn't happen at all) well then the local school will get a nice Core One as a donation.
- Bob Marley
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
One thing, that many of us forget, that its not just colors or materials, but indicates nozzle sizes and nozzle material you can choose from. I would definitely go for a maxed out config because of that and store my nozzles inside the machine 🙂
The problem with multiple nozzle sizes isn't the hardware, it's the slicer.
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Probably because making a smaller XL doesn't remove enough of the really expensive parts to make sense. It does makes total sense to me they would pivot many of the same parts from their MK4 line to a CoreXY. INDX seems like the perfect upgrade to the CORE One to "beat" all of the filament swappers and in a lot of ways be a better solution (on paper) than Vortex.
Vortex has too many moving parts, for my taste.
The XL has a zero-electric tool change.
INDX is the other way round, all electronics in the head, only mechanical in the tools.
With Vortex, there's electrical and mechanical in the head, and the tool-station is mechanical (not a static solution). IMO too many moving parts.
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
With Vortex, there's electrical and mechanical in the head, and the tool-station is mechanical (not a static solution). IMO too many moving parts.
Well, Bambu's Vortek comes from the land of cheap hardware... I had similar feelings about their AMS and thought it was hardware overkill. But it works well, by all accounts -- at least as reliable as the MMU, and due to the actively driven spools it does not need filament buffers.
The hardware cost for a few more motors is not a big issue for consumer products made at a large scale in China. And Bambu seems to take reliability testing in development pretty seriously. While their printers are more complex than Prusa's, it seems they have fewer teething issues.
Having said that, I do like the INDX solution more. I prefer an elegant design over a "let's just throw more hardware at it" solution.
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The problem with multiple nozzle sizes isn't the hardware, it's the slicer.
Yes, for sure, it should be handled as well, but I'm really curious if they go that way to maximize the potential for every material. High flow for one, hardened for other ones, different nozzle size for supports or TPU overlays, etc. There is a whole aspect what I don't usually see and can be a lot of potential... But even just the convenience to be able to instantly use a nozzle setup without having to physically cool the hotend and change it, is nice.