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I just want to see a final price tag on a 4 color INDX upgrade. If it's ~$600 that ain't a bad cost. It was something like $350 plus tools.
I want one... But I really don't want to modify my machine. So I am conflicted. Depending on how easy it will be to do. First I need to upgrade to a Core One +.
4 is all I need, and really all I have room for and all I want to manage. For what I use it for that's fine.
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
I just want to see a final price tag on a 4 color INDX upgrade. If it's ~$600 that ain't a bad cost. It was something like $350 plus tools.
I want one... But I really don't want to modify my machine. So I am conflicted. Depending on how easy it will be to do. First I need to upgrade to a Core One +.
4 is all I need, and really all I have room for and all I want to manage. For what I use it for that's fine.
IMO they need to keep it in the ballpark as the MMU3 'upgrade'. Yes, I know it is a functional improvement, but you're getting one less colour and, I'm assuming you're going to have to strip/remove/reassemble a lot of parts from the C1. I might be waaaay off, and it's likely to be more expensive than the founder edition after we've BETA tested it 😅
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
From what I'm aware I think in February you should be able to pre-order the INDX Founders Edition again.
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From what I'm aware I think in February you should be able to pre-order the INDX Founders Edition again.
You can't preorder the Founder's edition again because it's sold out (there were a limited number available). You can pre-order the retail version from then if I remember it correctly.
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
From what I'm aware I think in February you should be able to pre-order the INDX Founders Edition again.
You can't preorder the Founder's edition again because it's sold out (there were a limited number available). You can pre-order the retail version from then if I remember it correctly.
This, IIRC.
The founders edition was a one time thing with 1500 units available for pre-order. I don't know how big Bondtech are, but I'm guessing they would struggle to have another 1500 units that they may have to help troubleshoot if the worst happens.
From what I've learned so far, I'd be very surprised if Prusa manage to stick to their deadline of Q2 INDX orders, or was it they were only taking pre-orders in Q2, with no scheduled dispatch as yet?
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
From what I've learned so far, I'd be very surprised if Prusa manage to stick to their deadline of Q2 INDX orders, or was it they were only taking pre-orders in Q2, with no scheduled dispatch as yet?
Based on how they advertise the INDX discount voucher that is currently offered with the Core One: They "expect" the INDX upgrade to be "added to our e-shop" in Q2. That can mean many things, of course -- both the "we expect" part and the "it's added to our e-shop". 😉
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
This is exactly the learning curve I expected when I first learned about INDX before buying a C1.
Let's be honest, changing the most sensible technology on a quite complex machine like a 3D printer doesn't happen so quickly.
We must distinguish the marketing effect of introducing a new technology with all the smoke and mirrors we have seen on Formnext and the reality.
The reality is PRUSA must ensure this technology will be mature enough to introduce it under its own brand and/or support it.
They cannot afford having hundreds of C1 satisfied customers like me hanged on support chat. They get rid of assembly to concentrate on thousands new users they just conquered recently.....with the help of INDX probably.
Hundreds of early adopter who will debug the stuff will provide probably enough feedback in Q1/Q2 to make a reasonable delivery in Q3/Q4 if they are lucky.
My bet is Prusa will have completed the offering for Formnext 2026 and this is good enough for me.
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Bondtech is a very small company, far smaller than PRUSA, less than 50 people as far as I read from financial reports.
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Hundreds of early adopter who will debug the stuff will provide probably enough feedback in Q1/Q2 to make a reasonable delivery in Q3/Q4 if they are lucky.
It's called Founders Edition for a reason, I guess. "Have you guys found all the bugs yet?" 😉
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AKA Flounders edition (the verb 'to flounder' and not the fish)
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Or it might be because the users will be thoroughly confounded...
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Suppose it makes sense to wait a year.
I wish there were a cost effective way to have machines upgraded at a certified vendor, so I didn't have to do it. But living in the ass end of one of the worse states in the union, I'd have to pay an arm and a leg just to ship it.
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Suppose it makes sense to wait a year.
I wish there were a cost effective way to have machines upgraded at a certified vendor, so I didn't have to do it. But living in the ass end of one of the worse states in the union, I'd have to pay an arm and a leg just to ship it.
Sounds like a business idea to me, but good luck with the customer support 😘😅
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From what Olaf has said on Discord, the C1 Indx upgrade should be a walk in the park.
He's also mentioned that there will be only minor differences between the C1 INDX and the DIY (Klipper) versions...he didn't see any reason why the C1 edition cant be used on a completely different printer.
Which sounds to me like electronically they will be identical, just mounting hardware will differ...which makes sense as the C1 doesn't use regular aluminium extrusions.
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I do think this will be a straightforward upgrade as the INDX print head is shipped mostly assembled. The only complexity will likely be in disassembling the nextruder I would think. And that comes off mostly intact when you take it off. May seem daunting but Prusa's assembly instructions are great and I'd assume they'll play a big part in supporting bondtech in creating them for the INDX.
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Which sounds to me like electronically they will be identical, just mounting hardware will differ
The Core One version will need a connection PCB on the extruder which is tailored to the plug types provided on the Core One's umbilical cord. And which includes a load cell amplifier & AD converter that sends the same serial data format as Prusa's.
Bondtech might adopt all the same connections in their generic version of the INDX of course. But from various user questions here on the forum it appears that the connectors chose by Prusa are not the most common types. So maybe the generic INDX will use something more widely available, like the JST PH series connectors? And for Z sensing, is a load cell with serial data transmission a common standard (which typical printer main boards can digest), or will something else be easier to integrate for DIY builders?
RE: INDX is coming for CoreOne?
Which sounds to me like electronically they will be identical, just mounting hardware will differ
The Core One version will need a connection PCB on the extruder which is tailored to the plug types provided on the Core One's umbilical cord. And which includes a load cell amplifier & AD converter that sends the same serial data format as Prusa's.
Bondtech might adopt all the same connections in their generic version of the INDX of course. But from various user questions here on the forum it appears that the connectors chose by Prusa are not the most common types. So maybe the generic INDX will use something more widely available, like the JST PH series connectors? And for Z sensing, is a load cell with serial data transmission a common standard (which typical printer main boards can digest), or will something else be easier to integrate for DIY builders?
Not sure mate, it’ll be interesting to see what choices they make regarding the points you’ve mentioned.