Asked about opinion for bambu vs Prusa Core  

RE: Asked about opinion for bambu vs Prusa Core

So this has nothing to do with China.

It has everything to do with China. The broader point, and the point I felt the need to emphasise, is that any data that hits a Chinese server is basically in the hands of the Chinese government, the manufacturer has NO say in that.
(Obviously this applies to basically all authoritarian regimes, but China are the ones producing 90% of the world's 3d printers.)
I know full well the reasons and principles behind air-gapping production machines.

RE: Asked about opinion for bambu vs Prusa Core

Rather short-sighted.  What if they steal your wifi password and use it to hack into your computer and steal your banking info?

Hm... who said it's on wifi? Prusa has RJ45 connector to connect it wired... (at least mine is)

regarding:

Offline mode, plus a firewall (a security mindet person runs anyway) fixes all security concerns.

Majority of 3d owners doesn't even have a clue what firewall, offline... is, let alone they know how to do anything about it... 

Not all people are computer freaks, and 3d printer is not meant only for those...

RE: Asked about opinion for bambu vs Prusa Core

I am referring to the Bambu - The Bambu uploads files to China in slicing process.  

Posted by: @protoncek-2

Rather short-sighted.  What if they steal your wifi password and use it to hack into your computer and steal your banking info?

Hm... who said it's on wifi? Prusa has RJ45 connector to connect it wired... (at least mine is)

 

regarding:

Offline mode, plus a firewall (a security mindet person runs anyway) fixes all security concerns.

Majority of 3d owners doesn't even have a clue what firewall, offline... is, let alone they know how to do anything about it... 

Not all people are computer freaks, and 3d printer is not meant only for those...

RE: Asked about opinion for bambu vs Prusa Core

Yeah, I wrote wrong, it should be "who said it has to be on wifi"

RE: Asked about opinion for bambu vs Prusa Core

Posted by: @protoncek-2

 

Offline mode, plus a firewall (a security mindet person runs anyway) fixes all security concerns.

Majority of 3d owners doesn't even have a clue what firewall, offline... is, let alone they know how to do anything about it... 

Not all people are computer freaks, and 3d printer is not meant only for those...

It timed out and I could not edit it.  

My printers and computers are quarantined and behind a firewall.  I know exactly what they are sending and accessing.  Mots do not have that skillset.  My son is a cybersecurity expert.  He has helped me ensure my HomePod, printers, etc are kept separate to avoid leaks or sharing of info I do not want.  I realize that I can print files over LAN, but would prefer to have the full Bambu experience.  If I don't want a file in Chinese hands, I print it on a Prusa.  

RE: Asked about opinion for bambu vs Prusa Core

BINGO!

Posted by: @gb160

So this has nothing to do with China.

It has everything to do with China. The broader point, and the point I felt the need to emphasise, is that any data that hits a Chinese server is basically in the hands of the Chinese government, the manufacturer has NO say in that.
(Obviously this applies to basically all authoritarian regimes, but China are the ones producing 90% of the world's 3d printers.)
I know full well the reasons and principles behind air-gapping production machines.

RE:

It has everything to do with China. The broader point, and the point I felt the need to emphasise, is that any data that hits a Chinese server is basically in the hands of the Chinese government, the manufacturer has NO say in that.

Again, you are wrong.
You are implying that you are forced to share data with the printer manufacturers where you are not. Not with Prusa, not with Bambu.
Both will work just fine locked in their own subnet, both will have reduced comfort if doing so.

If you are printing stuff not meant for the public eye then you need to protect it from leaving your computer, simple as that.
How many data breaches have you heard of over the last 10 years? Companies all over the world are affected.
Or a company has financial issues and gets taken over by an investor who decides selling customer data can make money.

So again, it does not matter who you share data with since you are never certain your data will stay there.

Btw., I own a Prusa MK4S and a Bambu H2D so I know both their possibilities and limitations with or without www connection.
And yes, of course I trust Prusa a hell of a lot more and I trust Bambu as far as I can throw a stone (and I'm very bad in throwing stones). Still - it makes no difference.

RE: Asked about opinion for bambu vs Prusa Core

Posted by: @mike1d

It has everything to do with China. The broader point, and the point I felt the need to emphasise, is that any data that hits a Chinese server is basically in the hands of the Chinese government, the manufacturer has NO say in that.

Again, you are wrong.
You are implying that you are forced to share data with the printer manufacturers where you are not. Not with Prusa, not with Bambu.
Both will work just fine locked in their own subnet, both will have reduced comfort if doing so.

If you are printing stuff not meant for the public eye then you need to protect it from leaving your computer, simple as that.
How many data breaches have you heard of over the last 10 years? Companies all over the world are affected.
Or a company has financial issues and gets taken over by an investor who decides selling customer data can make money.

So again, it does not matter who you share data with since you are never certain your data will stay there.

Btw., I own a Prusa MK4S and a Bambu H2D so I know both their possibilities and limitations with or without www connection.
And yes, of course I trust Prusa a hell of a lot more and I trust Bambu as far as I can throw a stone (and I'm very bad in throwing stones far).

Im not implying anything, so please clarify exactly what part of what I wrote that is wrong?

RE: Asked about opinion for bambu vs Prusa Core

Im not implying anything, so please clarify exactly what part of what I wrote that is wrong?

So you are saying you are talking about data in general? Yes, then you are correct.
But then it's the wrong thread. It's a Bambu vs. Prusa thread here. It's about 3D printers.

Those printers, where you as a user can decide if you share your data or not.