Arguably though, why wouldn't Bambu follow that same path? The filament, nozzles and print beds are consumables. Don't have to necessarily lock them down but as in the HP example you can degrade the user experience enough that they'd be willing to pay additional for branded consumables. Bambu can then keep the printers at below cost of your competitor for comparable features. 

Either way, I reckon INDX is going to bring Prusa right back into the race, maybe even push them ahead a little. Whether I personally get it or not, I don know yet, but I'm sure looking forward to seeing further details on how it installs and works. I'm just not prepared to be a beta tester this time round!

Trying to predict the future is like trying to drive down a country road at night with no lights while looking out the back window. (Peter Drucker)

Posted by: @gb160

 

Posted by: @tsamisa

Sorry but saying what that they "may" or they "possibly"  do in the future is not an argument. Prusa was opensourced with easy access to schematics and models. And that was their moto. When i bought the mk3s i could download its 3d model and use it to build my own enclosure around it. Hey even my X-carve had a complete 3d model of their cnc. From the time i got my XL until now no 3d model is present. And in the end i bought their overpriced and not so decent enclosure. The SLS1 is good but again overpriced and actually if it wasn't labeled as "Prusa" i wouldn't believe it was made, scratch that , sold by them.  Did the company became "closed" ,  or did it break a promise? No. Because they didnt promise anything and neither did Bambu. They were advertising what they considered their "pros" at that point in time. You never know what the future holds and how a company will respond to the market and challenges.  Stating that a "what if" is actually a reason to "badmouth" a company is childish. As childish as saying that Prusa's drive is something else than their profits. Its a company not charity. Prusa now has a lineup with patented technology from bondtech and placed the XL in the background (no actual upgrades since its release and no the enclosure is not an upgrade). Is it bad? It is what it is. I like the INDX idea and i hope it works. Personally i dont have a bambu but my trust in the Prusa name is not what it was.  I don't offer to be faithful to companies for ever and similarly i dont condemn others of what they MAY do. When the time comes to change my XL ill see what they offer and at that point in time where they stand. Recently i wanted a new SLA printer. Looking between SLS1 and others brands, Prusa was the worst choice. I got an Elegoo Saturn Ultra 4 and a the Mercury 3 curing station cheaper of what i could get just the cw1. I know because i have the SLS1 bundle also. And i get more for  less on size and features. Do i care were they are made or what it can happen in the future since DJI became a shareholder? Thats silly. Did i compare old with new. Yes but prusa charges its sls like its the latest model.

In the end of the day  if you dont like a product or a company its fair but for making an argument , again ... future "IFs" are a bit.... groundless, to place it mildly.

Childish ? 😂

Many of us are old enough to recognise these patterns emerging.
This aint our first rodeo.

Is still not an argument as afar as my opinion goes since it is not based on solid evidence. Yes you can predict up to some degree of a company goes bankrupt but certainly not if they are going to use you data for hacking, or  close their ecosystem or stop supporting let say 3rd party filaments. Company policies change and thats the actual fact. Either for better or for worse. If you have inside info please let us know

But you do understand what the word "concerns" means, right? Nobody said they have absolute proof of anything. This whole discussion is about more or less likely outcomes. But ignoring the evidence from past behavior in your decision-making for the future is a bit naive.

Posted by: @jurgen-7

Posted by: @tsamisa

Sorry but saying what that they "may" or they "possibly"  do in the future is not an argument.

I beg to differ. Whether it's people, companies, or whatever other entities -- you can observe past behavior, try to derive the underlying intentions and the likely future behavior from that. Try it, it can be quite helpful in your interactions with the world. 😎 

Posted by: @tsamisa

Sorry but saying what that they "may" or they "possibly"  do in the future is not an argument. Prusa was opensourced with easy access to schematics and models. And that was their moto. When i bought the mk3s i could download its 3d model and use it to build my own enclosure around it. Hey even my X-carve had a complete 3d model of their cnc. From the time i got my XL until now no 3d model is present. And in the end i bought their overpriced and not so decent enclosure. The SLS1 is good but again overpriced and actually if it wasn't labeled as "Prusa" i wouldn't believe it was made, scratch that , sold by them.  Did the company became "closed" ,  or did it break a promise? No. Because they didnt promise anything and neither did Bambu. They were advertising what they considered their "pros" at that point in time. You never know what the future holds and how a company will respond to the market and challenges.  Stating that a "what if" is actually a reason to "badmouth" a company is childish. As childish as saying that Prusa's drive is something else than their profits. Its a company not charity. Prusa now has a lineup with patented technology from bondtech and placed the XL in the background (no actual upgrades since its release and no the enclosure is not an upgrade). Is it bad? It is what it is. I like the INDX idea and i hope it works. Personally i dont have a bambu but my trust in the Prusa name is not what it was.  I don't offer to be faithful to companies for ever and similarly i dont condemn others of what they MAY do. When the time comes to change my XL ill see what they offer and at that point in time where they stand. Recently i wanted a new SLA printer. Looking between SLS1 and others brands, Prusa was the worst choice. I got an Elegoo Saturn Ultra 4 and a the Mercury 3 curing station cheaper of what i could get just the cw1. I know because i have the SLS1 bundle also. And i get more for  less on size and features. Do i care were they are made or what it can happen in the future since DJI became a shareholder? Thats silly. Did i compare old with new. Yes but prusa charges its sls like its the latest model.

In the end of the day  if you dont like a product or a company its fair but for making an argument , again ... future "IFs" are a bit.... groundless, to place it mildly.

Childish ? 😂

Many of us are old enough to recognise these patterns emerging.
This aint our first rodeo.