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NoeG
 NoeG
(@noeg)
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"bubbles" on first layer

I am frequently getting "bubbles" on the first layer, which sometimes are big enough to ruin the print.

E.g.:

The sheet was cleaned with warm water + dishwasher detergent before the prints. It happened on both sides of the sheet.

- using prusaslicer default settings, latest firmware (even tried the alpha2, no change)

- filament: prusament PETG (dry) - tried two different colours

- happened both with brass and steel nozzles, which were carefully cleaned before printing

 

What might be causing this, and how to fix it?

Best Answer by Diem:

Those look like fingerprints - but if you've washed with detergent then they're not plain fingerprints...

What potential contaminants do you use in the same area; what might have been transferred on your fingers or (do you have children?) other's fingers?

Cheerio,

Posted : 03/11/2024 6:25 am
John Lindo
(@john-lindo)
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RE: "bubbles" on first layer

Try using PLA , then you should know, printer bed or filament.

Posted : 03/11/2024 8:18 am
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Ro3Deee
(@ro3deee)
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RE: "bubbles" on first layer

Also a bigger bed temperature would help 

Posted : 03/11/2024 9:19 am
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Diem
 Diem
(@diem)
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Those look like fingerprints - but if you've washed with detergent then they're not plain fingerprints...

What potential contaminants do you use in the same area; what might have been transferred on your fingers or (do you have children?) other's fingers?

Cheerio,

Posted : 03/11/2024 9:50 am
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Thomas Lynch
(@thomas-lynch)
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RE: "bubbles" on first layer

I'm with Deim, your bed plate has seen better days. If cleaning does not work throw it out and use a new one. I do it all the time. Saves a lot of trouble and lost time trying to figure out what went wrong.

Tom

Posted : 03/11/2024 4:48 pm
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NoeG
 NoeG
(@noeg)
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Topic starter answered:
RE: "bubbles" on first layer

Thanks all. I did a very though clean, including boiling water, and used nytril gloves throughout. Then did a test (1 layer, basically covering the entire bed), and things seem good now.

My fingers must have been very greasy, or the bed very dirty, or maybe both!

 

Posted : 03/11/2024 4:50 pm
Artur5
(@artur5)
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RE: "bubbles" on first layer

You say that the two sides of the plate have this issue. Is this a regular and repeated pattern on both ( "bubbles" always on the same spots ) or it's a random occurrence ?,

Yours is a rather weird problem, Prusa satin plates are very tough and long lasting. The plate has been carefully cleaned and there're no visibly damaged spots ( at least, that we can see ).  I'd follow @John Lindo advice, printing the same part in PLA and see what happens. PETG is not a friendly filament. 

BTW  Have you tried to use glue stick, 3Dlac or similar ?.  It shouldn't be needed, but it helps with adhesion issues.  

Posted : 03/11/2024 7:23 pm
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