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Neal
 Neal
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Who is jumping on this?

Just wanted to know. After the release problems with the release and delivery of the MK3, MKs2.5 upgrade, MMUV1 upgrade (no we will just gut that and change to an entirely different system), and the MMUV2.0?

I want one and want one badly, but I'm going to wait until the dust settles.

That said the darn thing will probably get produced and delivered with out a hitch.

Neal

Opublikowany : 24/09/2018 3:01 pm
Steve
(@steve)
Estimable Member
Re: Who is jumping on this?

Like I said in the other thread: had one in the basket and was ready to press checkout but in the end decided that the pre-order discount wasn't worth the wait. I really hope that this release will be different than all the previous ones, but I've been burnt too many times. Going to wait until it ships without too much delay.

XL (5T) / MK4 / MK3S+-MMU3 / MK3S / MK2.5S-MMU2S / Mini / SL1S

Opublikowany : 24/09/2018 3:18 pm
dryja123
(@dryja123)
Honorable Member
Re: Who is jumping on this?

I've learned my lesson with my first Pursa printer, the MK3. I'll give it a year or so before I consider buying one.

Opublikowany : 24/09/2018 3:33 pm
3DALHEMIJA
(@3dalhemija)
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Re: Who is jumping on this?

No doubts that its reliable, have community support, some benefits that other budget DLP printers doesnt have, but honestly... hype won't be as with MK3 because Peopoly Moai offers more for same price...

Opublikowany : 24/09/2018 5:28 pm
Steve
(@steve-3)
Estimable Member
Re: Who is jumping on this?

I feel the same way. I really want the higher resolution, but want a bit more information from hobbyists.

More data would be helpful. How much is the operating cost? What resin options are available? How safe are the chemicals in a home or garage workshop? I will likely wait until they are shipping in reasonable volumes.

Steve

Opublikowany : 24/09/2018 6:30 pm
Nikolai
(@nikolai)
Noble Member
Re: Who is jumping on this?

Nothing for me for three reason:
1. I don't print tiny model stuff or jewelry.
2. SLA with all the chemicals just stinks. You can't have it in your living room.
3. Limited resin types.

Beside of that I think it's a step in the right direction because SLA and FDM printer are going hand in hand.

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Going small with MMU2
Real Multi Material
My prints on Instagram

Opublikowany : 26/09/2018 12:32 am
Bigdogbro1
(@bigdogbro1)
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Re: Who is jumping on this?

I'll wait until Prusa sets up a U.S.A. parts warehouse for its products before buying anything else from them.

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Opublikowany : 26/09/2018 1:13 pm
colin.a3
(@colin-a3)
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Re: Who is jumping on this?

Too messy and you need other parts to make it even work.

Opublikowany : 27/09/2018 6:07 pm
manuel.r9
(@manuel-r9)
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Re: Who is jumping on this?

I see people here comparing the Prusa SL1 with the Peopoly Moia. I think I can speak to that. The Peopoly Moai is kind of a tinkerer's 3D printer and unless you are buying one already assembled from MatterHackers is a hit or miss system. This 3D printer only has a single Laser SLA as supposed to MSLA technology. Leveling the Moia can be very difficult to say the least and to get it to print precise part is also very difficult at first. I am hoping that the Prusa SLA gather all the existing technologies that currently exists and improve upon them. I am more interested in 3D printing for dentistry. I really need a printer that is precise and has a wide range of open resins. Hopefully the Slicer is user friendly and easy to use. That is key to what we do in dentistry. Looking forward to a great start. We need a workflow that doesn’t take too long to post cure and finish the printed parts. If anybody at Prusa is willing to work with me I will be more than glad to help out.

Opublikowany : 28/09/2018 4:50 pm
Neal
 Neal
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Who is jumping on this?

I see people here comparing the Prusa SL1 with the Peopoly Moia. I think I can speak to that. The Peopoly Moai is kind of a tinkerer's 3D printer and unless you are buying one already assembled from MatterHackers is a hit or miss system. This 3D printer only has a single Laser SLA as supposed to MSLA technology. Leveling the Moia can be very difficult to say the least and to get it to print precise part is also very difficult at first. I am hoping that the Prusa SLA gather all the existing technologies that currently exists and improve upon them. I am more interested in 3D printing for dentistry. I really need a printer that is precise and has a wide range of open resins. Hopefully the Slicer is user friendly and easy to use. That is key to what we do in dentistry. Looking forward to a great start. We need a workflow that doesn’t take too long to post cure and finish the printed parts. If anybody at Prusa is willing to work with me I will be more than glad to help out.

In your case wouldn't it have to be a "medical" grade printer? Not to mention the quality of the resin.

Just wondering,

Neal

Opublikowany : 28/09/2018 5:45 pm
nathan0876
(@nathan0876)
Estimable Member
Re: Who is jumping on this?


I've learned my lesson with my first Pursa printer, the MK3. I'll give it a year or so before I consider buying one.

Every single word of this, never again am i going to be a Prusa beta tester. When shipping time is less than 2 weeks, and its shipping with all the parts its advertised to have, then i will consider it. So basically ill be back in a year to check on its progress.

Opublikowany : 28/09/2018 6:50 pm
The Plastic Shed
(@the-plastic-shed)
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Re: Who is jumping on this?

Considered, researched, figured out the messing about with washing, curing, vapour / odours, post processing in general and a limited size wise, then the parts really wouldn't work for what I have a printer for - what I found a need for is a larger printer ... not a smaller one.

I actually said I would buy one in the poll that was done but since I did some more research my response was probably misleading - sorry Joe.

So I'm afraid I'll be a late adopter if at all.

Opublikowany : 29/09/2018 12:13 am
3DALHEMIJA
(@3dalhemija)
Estimable Member
Re: Who is jumping on this?


I see people here comparing the Prusa SL1 with the Peopoly Moia. I think I can speak to that. The Peopoly Moai is kind of a tinkerer's 3D printer and unless you are buying one already assembled from MatterHackers is a hit or miss system. This 3D printer only has a single Laser SLA as supposed to MSLA technology. Leveling the Moia can be very difficult to say the least and to get it to print precise part is also very difficult at first. I am hoping that the Prusa SLA gather all the existing technologies that currently exists and improve upon them. I am more interested in 3D printing for dentistry. I really need a printer that is precise and has a wide range of open resins. Hopefully the Slicer is user friendly and easy to use. That is key to what we do in dentistry. Looking forward to a great start. We need a workflow that doesn’t take too long to post cure and finish the printed parts. If anybody at Prusa is willing to work with me I will be more than glad to help out.

In case of "budget" dentistry, SL1 could be way to go, since your models are small and need no more build volume than what SL1 offers. But if you are product designer, model maker, etc. bigger volume is really necessary.

Opublikowany : 29/09/2018 3:24 pm
cwbullet
(@cwbullet)
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Re: Who is jumping on this?

I decided "no".

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Opublikowany : 29/09/2018 5:27 pm
Ben
 Ben
(@ben-4)
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Re: Who is jumping on this?

Hmmm.....seems like mostly no in here. I was at first intrigued, but having used Form1+ and Form2 and being under-whelmed by their capabilities, it seems to me that the new SL1 with an even SMALLER build envelope is going in the wrong direction. Also, I have found resin prints to be VERY weak, prone to warpage, difficult to clean/paint, and very messy. Even with the cleaning station and curing station from Formlabs, it was much better but still very messy.

FDM is much more friendly, and if you really NEED resin parts, order them from a service bureau.

All that said, I would bet that Prusa will eventually get this technology 'right' and about as friendly as it can be, so if resin is your thing I'll bet you can do much worse than Prusa. Not sure i would wait for it like I did with my Mk3, though I love my mk3 and it was worth the wait.

Opublikowany : 29/09/2018 5:58 pm
Quintesse
(@quintesse)
Eminent Member
Re: Who is jumping on this?

Not sure why people are so negative in this thread. Prusa makes excellent, award-winning printers. Of all the ones I've had they are the most reliable, have a whole slew of great features, Prusa's support is outstanding and they just keep on improving their printers normally making it pretty easy for people to upgrade to the latest and greatest. Given that track-record I had no problem to jump on the bandwagon.

The way I see it you can either go for a cheap Chinese option and expect no support (and no future) at all or you go to one of the commercial options where you'll pay a LOT more and probably forget about easy and cheap upgrade paths to newer models. Since buying my first Prusa (MK2) I've become a real fan of them, I just don't know who else comes close.

Opublikowany : 01/10/2018 3:31 pm
ntdesign
(@ntdesign)
Reputable Member
Re: Who is jumping on this?

I own an Anycubic Photon, which costs less than half and works very well. Has eaten every UV resin I've fed it so far. It's very easy to service and repair, no assembly required, nice linear rail and almost entirely milled aluminum parts. I would go as far as saying it was designed with repairability in mind. Good air cleaning, but still smelly (I don't think this problem will be easy for PR to remove entirely). So far their support was very quick and helpful, the only thing I could criticize is the crappy slicer. However keep in mind slicing is a lot less complicated for SLA, because you expose complete layers. Apart from the mess associated with the method, it is a damned good little printer. And best of all, ordered on a monday, received exactly one week later 😈
I really don't see the point to step into this market, unless PR think they can cash in on their good reputation. They will have a hard time competing with what's already there. Time will tell.

Opublikowany : 01/10/2018 5:45 pm
RufusClupea
(@rufusclupea)
Reputable Member
Re: Who is jumping on this?

Considering the problems I've had--and continue to have--with the MK3, and all the piss-poor design issues with the MMU2, I won't be touching this with a 100m pole. 😡

That's "MISTER Old Fart" to you!

Opublikowany : 02/10/2018 6:23 pm
rob.l6
(@rob-l6)
Honorable Member
Re: Who is jumping on this?

As it involves a lot more messing about and is more costly just to print smaller size items, albeit with higher detail, I won't be investing. I'm out.

Opublikowany : 03/10/2018 5:52 am
Nikolai
(@nikolai)
Noble Member
Re: Who is jumping on this?


Not sure why people are so negative in this thread...

Not at all. Most of the poster here are happy Prusa customer. SL1 is just not for everybody and this is what this thread is about.

Often linked posts:
Going small with MMU2
Real Multi Material
My prints on Instagram

Opublikowany : 11/10/2018 10:08 pm
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