Hotend preheat error
Got my MMU3 a few weeks ago and added it to my MK 3.9. I was able to print many things without issue and wanted to try adjusting some volume purging when going from black->yellow. So I edited the purging volumes in slicer 2.7.4 to purge a little more when going between these colors. 
But it doesn't work. My Printer goes over to the wipe tower and looks to change filament, but in the process it reboots itself. It comes back with a big red error screen and a lot of beeping saying "Hotend preheat error #21202"
Going to this page it refers me to: https://help.prusa3d.com/article/hotend-preheat-error-13202-mk4-21202-mk3-9_401060
This error is shown when the printer is unable to heat up the nozzle more than 2 ºC for 20 seconds. The printer starts a safety feature, which instantly kills the heating process and displays the message on the screen. The printer then waits for the user to inspect all parts and if needed fix the issue.
There is nothing wrong with my printer. My printer heats up just fine and really fast. This problem goes away when I change back to default purge volumes and instead use global ones (editing the Filament Purge Multiplier in the Printer Settings).
Anyone else experiencing this? is this a Slicer issue?
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Today I was 6 hours into a 9 hour print and it failed again. This time I didn't touch anything in slicer other than to increase the purge volume in the print settings for all filaments.
I put a multimeter on the heater: 16.7 Ω, and on the thermistor at 25 degrees: 100 kΩ
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Same problem on my MK4 printer and MMU3. New model with deafult settings can't print -> stuck after 1st filament change -> change works fine, but after that it only travels short distance and restart with Prusa logo -> followed by beeping with mentioned error.. Example of sheep works without any issue.
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Like to follow this. Feels same as me
singel print works
mmu peints wont Work after last firmware update. Get preheat error.
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Update: talked with support. They said that maybe my heat was too high on the PLA? I was using stock 230 first and 220 other layers... and to try going down to 215?
I have no idea if that helps, it seemed like a wild goose chase to me.
I bought a new thermistor and heater and will try a multi-material print again to see if it happens.
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thanks for you update.
i fail all long my print when the Change happen. Tried go back a firmware. No help. Started after last firmware. Single print is no problem.
I am also going to order a whole new block with all I need after I come back home. So very interested in how this get solved.
I also have get som nextruder warnings in my last prints, so many that’s a hint. That’s kind of also one of the solutions in the user guide.
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Just finished printing a 3-filament object with different purge volumes with each. No issues and print completed successfully
Since my original post, the following has changed
- Firmware upgrade to 6.0.2
- PrusaSlicer now 2.8.0
- New thermistor and heater
Will update further after many successful prints
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Thanks for posting updates.
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Hi, thanks for update. I also did update for my mk4 6.0.3 and also slicer 2.8.0 today. Already started printing and everythink looks good now ~1hour (10% of my model) printing without any issue (Stoped on 5% after 1st filament change in the past). I will write review tomorow, but I hope, there was some sw/fw issue. I didn't change anythink on my printer except fw.
I wish you happy printing!
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Yes thank you for the update @longer. I too have had no issues recently. I think the old config/prusa slicer was adding in some ridiculous expectations for temperature changes when you modify the purge volumes. It cools down a bit to allow for ramming and getting a good tip, and then it wants the temperature to immediately go back up for the next filament.
So far looks resolved.
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Hi, I too have the hotend preheat error. it (almost) always happens when switching colours. What I observe is that as soon as a layer is done, and the printhead goes to the wipe tower, the target temperature is set to 180 degrees Celsius. Then the filament is retracted. When the new filament is about to load, the target temperature is set back to the set printing temperature. This is when the error happens. I assume the temperature doesn't rise fast enough for the 2 seconds rule to trigger the error.
I did notice that when I print at higher temperatures, the problem occurs more often. When I print PLA at 200 degrees C, it seems to occur less.
So here are some thoughts / ideas I have.
- Why does the temperature have to go to 180 degrees C during the switch? Something to do with the quality of the tip of the filament for the unloading / loading?
- and from that, where do I turn this off, or set a different temperature?
I recently upgraded from MK4 to MK4S. With the MK4 I thought I had solved it by lowering the standard printing temperature of PLA from 230 to 200 degrees C. (the 230 caused a lot of stringing btw. I don't understand why it is set at 230 for PLA anyway, if it is set much lower anywhere else. Is the higher speed a thing?... but anyway) With the MK4S there is 360 degrees cooling. So..:
- Can the cooling be of effect? Would a bit less cooling help?
- would a more stable environment help? The room the printer is in is quite cold.
I can experiment with the cooling, But how to adjust the temperature drop to 180?
best regards, Wilco
PS. I did contact the helpdesk about it a few times when it was still the MK4, and the confirmed that the thermistor and heater work properly. 1-filament printing goes fine.
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PS. I did contact the helpdesk about it a few times when it was still the MK4, and the confirmed that the thermistor and heater work properly. 1-filament printing goes fine.
Update! So despite my earlier calls and chats with the helpdesk in 2023/2024, which left me thinking my hotend was fine, it now turned out the thermistor was suboptimal. With the help of the prusa chat support, and the hotend that came with the Core One kit that came in last week, I found the reheating from the 180 degrees back up to the printing temperature went much quicker. It is now at 198 when it starting to load the new filament, instead of still around 182 when it is already starting the new layer. So thank you for you patience with me Prusa team!