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Paul
 Paul
(@paul-21)
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Newbie Questions on MMU3

Hi,

I haven't used an MMU but have been using Prusa printers for several years. My question is can the MMU be disconnected quickly to allow a MK4/S to print standalone?

I quite often use flexible, foaming PLA and a few other different filaments that probably wouldn't be MMU compatible. It looks as though you could just unscrew the tube from the nextruder and screw in another from a single reel, but is it that simple?

Regards,

Paul

Posted : 04/09/2024 3:44 pm
Mike1D
(@mike1d)
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RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

Hi Paul,

I believe your question is answered in the manual: No, it is not possible to quickly disconnect it since the Nextruder will need to be modified.
https://www.prusa3d.com/downloads/manual/prusa3d_manual_mmu3_en_102.pdf
(Chapter 8.1. Mounting/Unmounting the MMU3 unit)

That was for me one of the reasons to not immediately decide for the MMU3 because I don't like these teflon tubes/hoses in the filamenmt path but then I still decided ordering the MMU3 and hope it won't cause any issues. To be fair I print with support quite a lot and this is the reason I bought the MMU3 to be able to print the support interface with a different material (like PLA with PETG support interface and vice versa) so I will use the MMU3 probably a lot anyway.

Posted : 05/09/2024 6:59 am
Paul
 Paul
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

Thanks for the answer Mike, I guess I may put off the MMU3 for a while.

Posted : 05/09/2024 11:03 am
Volker
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RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

It is as easy as it could be:
Disable MMU in "settings" and you can print and bypass the MMU as before. Once you want print with the MMU just enable MMU in "settings".

Posted : 06/09/2024 2:26 pm
Mike1D
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RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

 

Posted by: @volker

It is as easy as it could be:
Disable MMU in "settings" and you can print and bypass the MMU as before. Once you want print with the MMU just enable MMU in "settings".

What about the filament sensor that has been disabled in the Nextruder when installing MMU3?

Posted : 06/09/2024 2:28 pm
JoanTabb
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RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

The filament sensor is modified for mmu3. But still should work as a filament out sensor.

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Posted : 06/09/2024 2:42 pm
Volker
(@volker)
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RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

The filamentsensor on the nextruder is enabled with or without MMU

Posted : 06/09/2024 3:20 pm
Mike1D
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RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

 

Posted by: @joantabb

The filament sensor is modified for mmu3. But still should work as a filament out sensor.

 

Posted by: @volker

The filamentsensor on the nextruder is enabled with or without MMUSo

So what exactly happens then when preparing the Nextruder for MMU3 and removing the filament sensor assembly?
https://help.prusa3d.com/guide/9a-mk4-s-nextruder-mod_683106 (Step 8)
"On top of the Nextruder heatsink, there is a filament sensor assembly. We will need to remove it"

I'm curious since you both state it will continue to work. What exact functionality does this part have then that has to be removed in Step 8?

Posted : 08/09/2024 6:57 am
Volker
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RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

In the adaption of the MK4 nextruder to the MMU3, the filamentsensor on the nextruder is changed. There is a filament sensor. The only difference is the mechanical trigger (by ball or by idler movement).
Once you have done the adaption to the MMU3 you need not to change it back if you want to bypass the MMU.
As I wrote: simply disable the MMU3 in the settings. Unplug the tube on the nextruder and load the filament directly to the nextruder.

Posted : 08/09/2024 7:06 am
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Mike1D
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RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

Great, thank you!

Posted : 08/09/2024 7:08 am
Paul
 Paul
(@paul-21)
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

Thanks for the answers/discusssion. It looks like the MMU3 wouldn't inhibit the full normal use of the MK4 so I may add the MMU to my MK4S update.

Posted : 10/09/2024 1:44 pm
Mike1D
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RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

I tried in the meantime and the only thing different is that the filament sensor in the modified extruder is reacting later due to the way it works after modification.
Later means the remaining filament of a spool getting empty is already at the middle of the gear or so before the printer can react to it which means pulling can be a bit more tricky (I did some tests only, no real-life spool getting empty or so).

Posted : 10/09/2024 1:50 pm
Paul
 Paul
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

Thanks for that test. For me running out of filament is pretty rare although I've had it break a couple of times. The important thing is that the printer will still stop so I don't think it should be OK.

Thanks for you answer on my other query on high flow nozzles, I've been using the standard obxidian nozzles for a while with polymaker PC and LW-PLA  as it feels abrasive (although they dont recommend a special nozzle). Havent used conductive filament yet but considered it for rf enclosure.

Cheers,

Paul

Posted : 10/09/2024 2:30 pm
Paul
 Paul
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Newbie Questions on MMU3

Sorry should have read "The important thing is that the printer will still stop so I think it should be OK."

Posted : 10/09/2024 2:42 pm
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