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joreal
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+

Chroma+SlicerPE (left), Slic3rPE+P2PP(right)

Napsal : 16/01/2019 4:13 am
joreal
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+

With this P2PP plug-in, purge block size is no longer issue when comparing Prusa MMU2.0 and Mosaic Palette 2.

Napsal : 16/01/2019 4:17 am
toaf
 toaf
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was that huge purge block around 1/6th the build plate? good gods.

I have a Prusa,therefore I research.

Napsal : 16/01/2019 4:18 am
joreal
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+


was that huge purge block around 1/6th the build plate? good gods.

Yes. And heavy. I was not able to compare the weight last night(Asia) because I ran of 9V battery for my weighing scale.

Can cause skull facture if thrown to someone’s head. Might be keeping it for self defence. Hahaha.

Napsal : 16/01/2019 5:42 am
toaf
 toaf
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+

size wise alone. took up allot of the bed.

my 3200 tool change purge block was 1.4 pounds

I have a Prusa,therefore I research.

Napsal : 16/01/2019 6:08 am
PJR
 PJR
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+


my 3200 tool change purge block was 1.4 pounds

Just one of the reasons why I don't use Slic3r 😉

Peter

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Napsal : 16/01/2019 10:17 am
joreal
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+



my 3200 tool change purge block was 1.4 pounds

Just one of the reasons why I don't use Slic3r 😉

Peter

What slicer are yiu using?

Napsal : 16/01/2019 1:14 pm
toaf
 toaf
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+




my 3200 tool change purge block was 1.4 pounds

Just one of the reasons why I don't use Slic3r 😉

Peter

What slicer are yiu using?

he is our kiss expert

I have a Prusa,therefore I research.

Napsal : 16/01/2019 1:25 pm
toaf
 toaf
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+



my 3200 tool change purge block was 1.4 pounds

Just one of the reasons why I don't use Slic3r 😉

Peter

it was for my tool change test, i could have made it smaller by abit, but it wouldn't have been too much smaller. i would not blame slicer for this huge purge block. i will give them that one.

I have a Prusa,therefore I research.

Napsal : 16/01/2019 1:33 pm
PJR
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+


he is our kiss expert

Ex = something that has been
Spurt = drip under pressure.

It's not nice calling someone a "has-been drip under pressure" 😉

But thanks, anyways 🙂

Peter

Please note: I do not have any affiliation with Prusa Research. Any advices given are offered in good faith. It is your responsibility to ensure that by following my advice you do not suffer or cause injury, damage…

Napsal : 16/01/2019 4:20 pm
Nikolai
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he is our kiss expert

Noooo. Peter is our KISS emissary. 😉

Often linked posts:
Going small with MMU2
Real Multi Material
My prints on Instagram

Napsal : 16/01/2019 6:42 pm
joreal
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+

I'm enjoying using Palette 2.0 making my MMU2.0 idle for almost 2 months now. And now that I'm using P2PP post processing plugin there is no reason for me to revert back to MMU2.0, probably except if I need 5 materials.

Napsal : 23/01/2019 7:16 am
toaf
 toaf
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I'm enjoying using Palette 2.0 making my MMU2.0 idle for almost 2 months now. And now that I'm using P2PP post processing plugin there is no reason for me to revert back to MMU2.0, probably except if I need 5 materials.

hey does palette let you "pre splice" filament? I might want to run a funky test 😀

I have a Prusa,therefore I research.

Napsal : 23/01/2019 7:48 am
Peter L
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+


hey does palette let you "pre splice" filament? I might want to run a funky test 😀

Not sure about the Palette 2, but the Palette+ has a test mode where it will just splice a bunch of segments together in different colors. You can use it to replace plain filament and get a horizontal stripe look.

Napsal : 23/01/2019 4:49 pm
digibluh
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I'm enjoying using Palette 2.0 making my MMU2.0 idle for almost 2 months now. And now that I'm using P2PP post processing plugin there is no reason for me to revert back to MMU2.0, probably except if I need 5 materials.

hey does palette let you "pre splice" filament? I might want to run a funky test 😀

yes.

Napsal : 24/01/2019 1:18 am
Super7
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+

Hi all

I’m thinking of buying a Palette 2 pro or Prusa MMU but was wondering about the following...

Some of the things I make have a cutout ‘text’ on the bottom few layers. I would like to have these ‘coloured’ in. This text would be no more than say 2mm thick, how much extra time would this take to print, they currently take roughly 2 hours. Also, how big would the purge block be?

Am I right in thinking that as it would only be 10 layers (at 0.2mm / layer) it wouldn’t add much to the print time or create a big purge block?

Apologies if this is a stupid question, I’m quite new to this!

Napsal : 03/02/2019 11:30 am
JoanTabb
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+

I use this technique

Minimal waste
If background is dark. You need opaque colours to prevent dull infill
I recently put a white patch behind red infill on black background because the red was not opaque enough

Joan

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Napsal : 03/02/2019 2:15 pm
toaf
 toaf
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+


Hi all

I’m thinking of buying a Palette 2 pro or Prusa MMU but was wondering about the following...

Some of the things I make have a cutout ‘text’ on the bottom few layers. I would like to have these ‘coloured’ in. This text would be no more than say 2mm thick, how much extra time would this take to print, they currently take roughly 2 hours. Also, how big would the purge block be?

Am I right in thinking that as it would only be 10 layers (at 0.2mm / layer) it wouldn’t add much to the print time or create a big purge block?

Apologies if this is a stupid question, I’m quite new to this!

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it adds roughly 90 seconds per color change.

I have a Prusa,therefore I research.

Napsal : 03/02/2019 5:31 pm
Super7
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Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+

Thanks, that’s not bad at all.

Looks like I’ll be going with the Palette 2, as the Prusa mmu still has a 2 month backlog.

Napsal : 03/02/2019 7:03 pm
Peter L
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Comparing MMU2 and Palette+



Some of the things I make have a cutout ‘text’ on the bottom few layers. I would like to have these ‘coloured’ in. This text would be no more than say 2mm thick, how much extra time would this take to print, they currently take roughly 2 hours. Also, how big would the purge block be?

It's going to depend somewhat on your settings, but a ballpark estimate is that the MMU2 adds 60-90 seconds per filament change, and the Palette2 adds about half that (30-45 seconds) per filament change.

Once you get your purge settings tuned, the MMU2 will consume on average around 0.5g of purge per change, and the Palette2 will consume around double that (~1g) per change.

Adding some color to the top or bottom layers of a print is pretty close to the ideal situation for minimizing tool changes. I've found that often I only need to color 0.5mm (2-3 layers, depending on settings) to get the effect I want. You can do a surprising amount with less than a dozen tool changes...

Napsal : 05/02/2019 3:51 pm
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