KISSlicer 1.6 Beta  

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

I think I am still half drunk but I cant figure out how to make the changes to add the Single extruder version of the Printer

Also I see that the Release Candidate is out now so I downloaded that

Erick

If you have a look at this post: http://www.kisslicertalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1448&p=5160&hilit=prusauser#p5160 you will find my download link which now includes a profile for the single filament Mk2/S.

Peter

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

So, I've printed a Benchy to make something original! A 0.2 layers print so I can compare with the other Benchies I've printed with Slic3r.
The global printing quality is better than with Slic3r, and I can even read the "#3DBenchy" on the back, although this is only 0.2 layer height. Really impressed.

But I have some stringing, so I will have to increase the 0.14 destring I found with the wizard. And I have 2 other issues:

1) The top of the "trunk" behind the cabin is not full, there is a gap, gap that I can see too on KISS slices (I have left the default 2.5 loop number)

2) I'm a bit disapointed by the seams which are quite visible and I'm surprised that KISS hasn't tried to hide them for example more on the right with the little corner although I have checked the "Corner" option of the seams hiding.

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

I think I am still half drunk but I cant figure out how to make the changes to add the Single extruder version of the Printer

Also I see that the Release Candidate is out now so I downloaded that

Erick

If you have a look at this post: http://www.kisslicertalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1448&p=5160&hilit=prusauser#p5160 you will find my download link which now includes a profile for the single filament Mk2/S.

Peter

You are the MAN! Testing right now

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

So it seems that I need to play with the depth parameter for the seams...
I've found this manuel, which is quite instructive although not up to date: http://2015.3ntr.eu/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Kisslicer_manual_en.pdf

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

So it seems that I need to play with the depth parameter for the seams...
I've found this manuel, which is quite instructive although not up to date: http://2015.3ntr.eu/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Kisslicer_manual_en.pdf

Seam depth and gap are now quite different to 1.5, but the settings do still make some differences. There will be a new version of the manual when the 1.6 final is released (and that should be quite soon now).

To get the seam in the corners, set the seam position to the real, and select a jitter of about 60 degrees. Withy some testing you should be able to get the seam nearly invisible.

Peter

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

Ok thanks.
And what is the difference between the join-loop parameters? (off, seams, full)
I don't really understand this one...

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

This version of kisslicer is very nice. Thank you for being there to help us PJR (that reminds me when we discussed together months ago about the previous version of kisslicer, you helped me so much; today we are many more, and that's a lot better !).
I know a lot of users like me still use the MK2 single extruder, and I also know the setting is different for MM (like for example retraction lenght...). Peter, do the link you provide here http://www.kisslicertalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1448&p=5160&hilit=prusauser#p5160 include the settings and the profiles (Single extruder and/or MM) for kisslicer 1.6 RC2.
Thanks for your time

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

Peter, do the link you provide here http://www.kisslicertalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1448&p=5160&hilit=prusauser#p5160 include the settings and the profiles (Single extruder and/or MM) for kisslicer 1.6 RC2.

Yes, the profile includes settings for the standard single filament printer, but the material settings are currently for the MMU - destring is currently set at 2.5mm but this is something you will need to tune (using the wizard). The ideal destring for the single filament with preload turned on is between 0.2 and 0.5 I think.

Peter

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

I'm a bit confused right now about the destring.

Indeed this morning I've realized that my "style" profil wasn't good for the preload wizard since the seams were on an angle, so I've started back again but with the seam on a straight line of the part. I've found a greater preload value with this method.

Now, I've launched the destring test with 3 cylinders as advised with the same style profil as the preload test. I had stringing only on the few first layers, and for the moment, nothing more (print is still in progress), but I've noticed that the destring value has a high impact on the seam quality! The more destring is applied, the larger the seam is (which is pretty logical when I think about it).
So what am I supposed to look at in this test: the stringing or the seams quality?

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

See this post by Jonathan: http://www.kisslicertalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1971&start=10#p5388

Explains it much better than I could, and it refers to all of the tuning wizards (not just Preload).

Peter

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

Thanks!

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

After a weekend of calibration and parameters tinkering, I have mixed feelings about KISS.
The overall printing quality seems to me higher than with Slic3r, but the seams hiding doesn't feel to me to be as efficient as it could be. I've tried to play with the seam depth and gap parameters, but I haven't found something better than the default depth 1/gap 0 and with these parameters, I don't find that the seams are less visible than the ones in Slic3r.
Moreover, I find KISS less efficient in hiding the seams in corners than Slic3r.

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

After a weekend of calibration and parameters tinkering, I have mixed feelings about KISS.
The overall printing quality seems to me higher than with Slic3r, but the seams hiding doesn't feel to me to be as efficient as it could be. I've tried to play with the seam depth and gap parameters, but I haven't found something better than the default depth 1/gap 0 and with these parameters, I don't find that the seams are less visible than the ones in Slic3r.
Moreover, I find KISS less efficient in hiding the seams in corners than Slic3r.

Do you have "Join-Loop" set to "Seam"?

Peter

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

After a weekend of calibration and parameters tinkering, I have mixed feelings about KISS.
The overall printing quality seems to me higher than with Slic3r, but the seams hiding doesn't feel to me to be as efficient as it could be. I've tried to play with the seam depth and gap parameters, but I haven't found something better than the default depth 1/gap 0 and with these parameters, I don't find that the seams are less visible than the ones in Slic3r.
Moreover, I find KISS less efficient in hiding the seams in corners than Slic3r.

Do you have "Join-Loop" set to "Seam"?

Peter

Yes I do!
And I almost find that the seams was less visible during the preload wizard when it was set to off.
I don't really see what I'm missing, but I must do miss something since you manage to have almost invisible seams 😐

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

I don't really see what I'm missing, but I must do miss something since you manage to have almost invisible seams 😐

Shame. Still, you can save the project file and let me have a look if you want.

Peter

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

I don't really see what I'm missing, but I must do miss something since you manage to have almost invisible seams 😐

Shame. Still, you can save the project file and let me have a look if you want.

Peter

Here is a project file I generated again for Benchy.
If you see anything wrong or odd, tell me...

Tonight, I decided to test the supports, I'm pretty happy with them! The surface quality of the print could be nicer, I have to investigate with which parameters I can play.

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

Here is a project file I generated again for Benchy.
If you see anything wrong or odd, tell me...

Tonight, I decided to test the supports, I'm pretty happy with them! The surface quality of the print could be nicer, I have to investigate with which parameters I can play.

There's nothing obviously wrong in your settings; if I get chance I will print it later.

Regarding supports, I generally use a sheath for the first 5mm (at 0.2mm layers - more for lower layer height or stacked). And 0.15mm Z Gap,

Peter

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

Thanks for the feedback on the settings.

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

I've just thought about something: I didn't use the flow wizard tuning since I didn't know which parameter to modify after it. Do you think it can have an impact? Which setting am I supposed to alter?

Re: KISSlicer 1.6 Beta

I've just thought about something: I didn't use the flow wizard tuning since I didn't know which parameter to modify after it. Do you think it can have an impact? Which setting am I supposed to alter?

No idea. Never used it and don't plant to. But I really don't think that would cause poor seams.

Personally, I use 1.8mm for filament diameter for most of the PLA I use; just seems to generate a better all-round print.

Peter