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mattb86
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Calibration failing with varying messages

I just got my Mk3 this week as my first 3D printer, ever. I ran through the initial wizard and, with the exception of having to tighten up the X belt, everything appeared to be fine.

I made two of the test prints, seemed to go OK.

I move on to try to print something besides a test print, the printer goes haywire. The extruder moves to the far right and is spitting out filament like crazy. I hit reset.

I try again, the extruder started to pickup my print and move it all around the bed. Ok, so I go back and adjust Z. Try again, looks good starting out. Nope, calibration error. Ok, so I go through the wizard, again.

Looks good, all checks pass, calibration is done. Start the print again, many layers in (like 2-3 hours), it decides the bed is not level (isn't that a test performed at the very beginning of each print??). Ok, so the extruder is now front center. I try the bed leveling calibration. It must think that front center is front left because it ultimately goes extreme right and grinds.

Ok, let's move X back to a rough approximation of its starting location in the menu. Nope, can't do that, it already thinks its at center. Hmmm, OK. Let's do the calibration again. Fails with the same error, bed isn't level. I get some really weird output on the LCD screen, a bunch of characters that don't make up English words nor Czech words near as I can tell. Ok, this looks like possible firmware corruption. Redownload, reflash firmware. Go through the wizard. Almost everything checks out, it says XY is slightly skewed.

Ok, for good measure, let's try a different print. Now it fails telling me to check the X axis length. No idea how to do that, the manual doesn't say, so I start Googling.

Apparently the #1 cause of this problem is a cable hitting either the left or right side and causing the unit to think that's the furthest extreme it can move. This was a pre-assembled unit so that's kind of strange. Ok, I'll check all the cables, not seeing anything that is hitting the sides. I checked the top, etc. Not seeing anything. Ok, maybe it was a one-off. Let's do calibration again. Oh wait, can't do that, the extruder is front center again and thinks that's front left, let's go far right and grind away.

Fix that, start calibration again, same error. Wiped out the calibration config and started wizard again. Same error. Reflash firmware again, run the wizard again, same error. When doing the very first calibration the X belt was too loose and that threw an error, well maybe I overtightened it, I'll loosen it up. Same error. Ok, let's try and tune it with a known working belt, the Y belt. About the same tension, same error. Now I'm at a point where somehow X and Z are so far out of whack that when running calibration, the head moves down so low that the bed is bending. When this occurs, I think the extruder head is so far to the right that it's off the bed so at least the bed isn't being damaged. I usually panic and hit the power switch at this point so the bed doesn't get damaged

When the extruder is in the wrong position and has to be corrected, how does one do that? Physically move it or is there some sort of hidden way to do it in the menu? I would think the first step of every print or at least calibration should be to move as far left & forward as it can but it seems to think it's in the right place.

What do I do now? I'm not seeing any indication on here that the firmware version is bad. Maybe I have a bad unit. Maybe I'm just too new to the whole thing and I don't understand what these messages mean, user error.

I tried emailing Prusa but haven't gotten a response and I'd really like to use my printer.

Posted : 22/03/2018 2:17 pm
ccfoo242
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Re: Calibration failing with varying messages

I would try their chat feature on the website, I think people have had quicker responses using that. It's unfortunate you're having so many problems, but fortunate that you didn't build it. At least they will have to honor the warranty if they can't resolve this remotely.

Posted : 22/03/2018 2:50 pm
RH_Dreambox
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Re: Calibration failing with varying messages

Almost everything checks out, it says XY is slightly skewed.

The body may have become skew during transport. A skew frame needs to be corrected, otherwise you will not get any good prints.
Check if any of the screws in the frame have loosened.
Look in the assembly manual how to screw the Y-axis assembly together and how to avoid skew.

Once you have adjusted the frame, do an XYZ calibration again. Do not forget to put a paper under the nozzle so that you do not damage the bed.
If the nozzle scratches in the bed, you need to lower the PINDA sensor a bit.
Check the manual how to do that or check Prusas video.


http://manual.prusa3d.com/c/Original_Prusa_i3_MK3_kit_assembly

https://shop.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk3-f30/the-most-important-links-original-prusa-i3-mk3-t13545.html

Bear MK3 with Bondtech extruder

Posted : 22/03/2018 3:24 pm
mattb86
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Calibration failing with varying messages

Almost everything checks out, it says XY is slightly skewed.
The body may have become skew during transport. A skew frame needs to be corrected, otherwise you will not get any good prints.
Check if any of the screws in the frame have loosened.
Look in the assembly manual how to screw the Y-axis assembly together and how to avoid skew.

Once you have adjusted the frame, do an XYZ calibration again. Do not forget to put a paper under the nozzle so that you do not damage the bed.
If the nozzle scratches in the bed, you need to lower the PINDA sensor a bit.
Check the manual how to do that or check Prusas video.

http://manual.prusa3d.com/c/Original_P ... t_assembly

original-prusa-i3-mk3-f30/the-most-impo ... 13545.html

I should've been clearer, my apologies. My whole post is a chronological order of events. The original calibration said everything was perpendicular, a subsequent calibration said that the XY is slightly skewed, and now I'm at the point where I can't even get to (or pass) that test because the X Axis length needs to be checked and the process halts.

I checked your links for good measure but it doesn't seem to mention anything about checking or correcting the X Axis length. I did use the video you linked when doing the initial setup, loved it and found it more helpful than the user guide that was included.

Posted : 22/03/2018 3:41 pm
mattb86
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Topic starter answered:
Re: Calibration failing with varying messages

For the sake of the forum, I basically manually moved X to where it roughly should be. Went through calibration again and it seems to be working now. I'm sure that's not the best way to do it, so if anyone happens to find a better method than manually moving the X axis, please let me know.

Posted : 26/03/2018 10:20 pm
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