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Victory Sports
(@victory-sports)
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Loctite for bed adhesion...

I can't get my Prusament, Orange. PETG, large, tall, thin print to not warp and stay on the bed no matter what I do. I have resorted to dabbing loctite to connect the brim to the part... Any tips are appreciated... z-axis is good, every surface, various fan speeds and bottom layer width.. Looking for that special something...

Posted : 24/12/2022 2:13 am
FoxRun3D
(@foxrun3d)
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RE: Loctite for bed adhesion...

Prusament Orange PETG is usually the easiest PETG to print with. Here's my check list for warping:

Assuming (and this is a key assumption!) Live Z is well calibrated AND the steel sheet is squeaky clean (using hot water and fragrant-free dish washing soap), here are a few approaches that have worked for me:

- Slow down print speed.

- Add Mickey Mouse ears to the corners. You can add a cylindrical part in PrusaSlicer, maybe 10mm diameter, change height to single layer height, then place the part at the corner. Repeat for each corner.

- Add a brim around the model, 5 mm or more. Wider or 2 -layer high brims may be needed but may not work with the size of the model or may require being added in your CAD software.

- Use Layerneer Bed Weld ( https://www.amazon.com/Printer-Adhesive-Layerneer-Original-Filament/dp/B079984GV5/ ). You only need a thin layer.

- If you have design control over your part and it's possible considering the intended use, you can try to round the edges and/or add holes to the base of the model.

- Combination of above. Usually, brim/ears does the job, or some Layerneer if needed, but large, rectangular objects can be a challenge.

Formerly known on this forum as @fuchsr -- until all hell broke loose with the forum software...

Posted : 24/12/2022 12:09 pm
RandyM9
(@randym9)
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RE: Loctite for bed adhesion...

+1 - what @fuchsr said.

For some models I will reduce first layer print speed to 50% or less than default.

Raising bed temps by 5 degrees after the first layer may also help.

Cheers

Posted : 24/12/2022 3:34 pm
Artur5
(@artur5)
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RE: Loctite for bed adhesion...

Please, don't use ever again loctite near a printing plate. If the glue contacts the bed, it will damage irreversibly the PEI surface. 

Posted : 24/12/2022 6:04 pm
Victory Sports
(@victory-sports)
Eminent Member
Topic starter answered:
RE: Loctite for bed adhesion...

This is great stuff. Especially since all you can find is "your z is off" or "your bed is dirty". I've messed with those a ton. I know this is supposed to be the easiest petg to print with is why its o frustrating. I think because of the nature of the part. Any ways. Got a decent print going right now. I lowered the fans, used a brim and some magigo glue. So far so good. Getting some stringing...I think because of lower fan limits but totally worth it. Thanks for the thoughtful response!

Posted : 24/12/2022 9:46 pm
Victory Sports
(@victory-sports)
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Loctite for bed adhesion...

Reducing first layer speed helped a ton!

Posted : 24/12/2022 9:46 pm
Netpackrat
(@netpackrat)
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RE: Loctite for bed adhesion...

 

Posted by: @artur5

Please, don't use ever again loctite near a printing plate. If the glue contacts the bed, it will damage irreversibly the PEI surface. 

I would go so far as to say not to have it or use it on the same work surface as your printer, under any circumstances.  I learned this one the hard way...  An unseen drop of superglue had fallen on top of my work table and not cured.  Then when I set the sheet down on what I thought was a clean table, the drop of superglue basically wrecked one side of it.  Don't do that....  I also now use an empty cardboard filament spool to set the sheet on when I remove it from the printer, rather than setting it directly on the table.

https://www.printables.com/@Netpackrat/models
Posted : 24/12/2022 10:46 pm
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