PID-sensor OR Moons' ?  

Re: PID-sensor OR Moons' ?

I suspect that Prusa will concentrate on Firmware revision,
to improve the sensor functionality,
to improve first layer quality ( Perhaps 7x7 or 9x9 bed levelling.

and Slic3r revision to improve the performance of the slicer functionality.

the basic printer is working well for many users, in it's current current form the printer works well for most people,

PID tuning for the extruder, is already available from the LCD Menu.

moons motors are a gofaster option... the existing LDO motors are satisfactory for most folk

regards joan

Re: PID-sensor OR Moons' ?

Hi Joan ,

Thank you for that clarification.
I laughed a lot when I read your message, " for many users - for most people - for most folk " don't justify yourself, i'm a friend 🙂
I'm convinced that it's possible to run the " 24 hours of Le Mans " with a 2CV ( with good onboard electronics ).

When you say : " moons motors are a gofaster option... the existing LDO motors are satisfactory for most folk "
Are you suggesting that with the right settings it's possible to achieve the same result ?
Do you have links to other posts to give me ?

Best.
Pierig.

Re: PID-sensor OR Moons' ?

sorry Pierig,

I try to be non combative... in my posts...

some posts can become volatile when differing views are aired.

I am firmly of the opinion that I am entitled to my belief's, no matter how wrong other people may think they are, similarly other people are entitled to their beliefs.

I don't know what prusa will do, hence my guess...

I do know that there are many thousands of prusa printers in the wild, and the number of people on all of the support sites that I frequent, is correspondingly small... so it is likely the people here are more 'responsive' to their experiences, whether good or bad... hence my belief that there are many people who are happy with their prusa's

I first heard about the Moons motors on Chris Warcocki's pages (I don't think he comes here... might be wrong) https://prusacommunity.com/to-the-moons-and-back/ he then started saying that the LDO motor's guy, (who's name I forget ), sort of stepped up to the challenge of moons motors and provided some modified LDO motors for comparison, I lost track where that went, because there seemed to be a shift in focus to a bondtech geared extruder, which seems to have morphed into a new combined lighter motor, sls printed, 3:1 geared must have extruder in this video Chris rambles all over the place...

I don't have specific links.

My 2CV prusa, seems to generally run good enough for me in most instances, so I have so far chosen to not shell out for a moons motor or a BMG extruder... your pockets may be deeper... my mmu2 has two non standard motors, purely because I did not want to scrap my mmuv1

I have played with a couple of things like the knob for the LCD. I didn't like the original. I have indicators on all of the extrusion motors, 3 on the MMUv2 motors and one on the extruder.. cos it amuses me to see them moving...

I read a lot of posts,
apply the information to my personal environment and experiences,
act on what I feel is appropriate,
note what is interesting but not imminently important and dump what is ridiculous...

answer queries to the best of my ability, and
do my best to be helpful...

with regard to my Prusa's.
I have on occasion ignored prusa recommendations, so, for example,
following the failure of the ABS wiring loom support and spiral wrap cable management on my mk1 prusa, I changed to ptfe tube instead of ABS filament and braided sleeving instead of spiral wrap... and I have replaced my prusa heatbed cables with 16AWG flexible silicone cables replacing the broken wires on my mk2,mmuv1 and my mk3 my mk2.5 heatbed was installed with revised power cables from day 1 and my latest prusa mk2.8 Frankenstein version, also has silicone insulated wires from day 1 , I make these longer than standard, because I feel they are less stressed when longer...

when I did my mmuv2 upgrade, I chose to cut out the Grill on my original extruder housing, and keep the part cooling vertical fan with the cold air scoop and modified fan duct... rather than use the Dyson extruder housing r3/b7 parts... if it goes wrong, I accept the responsibility... I was supposed to dismantle my mmuv1 and salvage two motors from it... instead I used two non prusa motors... still seems to work!

on my mk2.8 Frankenstein, I am planning to complete the build with the modified Z axis upper and lower supports intended for a volcano hot end, with a standard e3dV6 hot end, in the hopes of getting 210 mm Z in a mk2 frame, I am also hoping to use a mk52 heatbed, on a mk2 Y frame, a 400watt 24 volt power supply, a modified mk2.5/mk3 extruder housing with an interfacing ball race to isolate the laser filament sensor from the filament, in the hopes of getting better filament out sensing.... I have fitted a beefed up Y motor bracket, because I broke a standard bracket on my mk2. and an Einsy controller to quieten down the running... I plan to use 5volt fans but not the sunnon fans that some folk are recommending, primarily because I haven;t had the problems, (real or perceived) that other folk have had...

so I generally take the lazy route...

my Y motor mount on my old mk2, broke when I dropped a roll of filament on the motor.. I glued and cable tied it together and printed two beefed up spares, the repaired one is still working, so i have not replaced it on my old mk2, but I have used the new version on my mk2.8 will eventually replace the motor mount om the old mk2

annnnnnd I am rambling, so I will stop here...

best wishes,
regards Joan