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Rocky79
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First Print Surface finish issue

Hello,

Here is a shot of the first print after assembly. What is the cause of the layer stack up imperfection?
Your help is appreciated.
Thank you

Publié : 11/03/2019 4:19 pm
bobstro
(@bobstro)
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Re: First Print Surface finish issue

Those are the z-seam, created when the nozzle is moved from one layer to the next. You can move the seam location around, and Slic3rPE and most other slicers offer options to try to hide them in corners. Unfortunately, with cylindrical layers with no corners, they have to go somewhere. You can tune them to a bit, but with the current state of FDM printing, they'll be present on every print.

You can confirm all this for yourself by slicing the part, then spending some time zoomed in in preview mode. Look for the little gaps that correspond to these imperfections. Much more detail in this thread.

My notes and disclaimers on 3D printing

and miscellaneous other tech projects
He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking. -- Spock in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan

Publié : 11/03/2019 5:56 pm
talz13
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Re: First Print Surface finish issue


Those are the z-seam, created when the nozzle is moved from one layer to the next. You can move the seam location around, and Slic3rPE and most other slicers offer options to try to hide them in corners. Unfortunately, with cylindrical layers with no corners, they have to go somewhere. You can tune them to a bit, but with the current state of FDM printing, they'll be present on every print.

You can confirm all this for yourself by slicing the part, then spending some time zoomed in in preview mode. Look for the little gaps that correspond to these imperfections.

I always preferred selecting the "random" positioning, to try to keep from getting groupings of them together, which I think looks much worse than if they were spread around the whole object.

Prusa i3 MK3 kit
MK3/S Upgrade Kit
FW 3.7.0
Slic3r PE 1.41.3

Publié : 11/03/2019 5:58 pm
bobstro
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Illustrious Member
Re: First Print Surface finish issue


[...] I always preferred selecting the "random" positioning, to try to keep from getting groupings of them together, which I think looks much worse than if they were spread around the whole object.
For me it depends on whether I can hide the seam, either in corners or on a surface that will be hidden. Aligning them together can also help if you're planning on sanding, priming or other post-processing. Otherwise, yeah, random can be the best overall balance.

KISSlicer has some insane and effective methods of hiding the seam. Unfortunately, it's not very friendly to use and doesn't seem to be under active development lately.

My notes and disclaimers on 3D printing

and miscellaneous other tech projects
He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking. -- Spock in Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan

Publié : 11/03/2019 6:02 pm
Rocky79
(@rocky79)
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Topic starter answered:
Re: First Print Surface finish issue

Thank you very much for the quick reply. That explains it.


Those are the z-seam, created when the nozzle is moved from one layer to the next. You can move the seam location around, and Slic3rPE and most other slicers offer options to try to hide them in corners. Unfortunately, with cylindrical layers with no corners, they have to go somewhere. You can tune them to a bit, but with the current state of FDM printing, they'll be present on every print.

You can confirm all this for yourself by slicing the part, then spending some time zoomed in in preview mode. Look for the little gaps that correspond to these imperfections. Much more detail in this thread.

Publié : 11/03/2019 6:18 pm
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