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Frank
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Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

First, Hello! My first post and would greatly appreciate some help.

I am now into about 700g of filament for my initial run of 3D Printing on my MK3S+.

I am printing 100 x 100mm boxes. Each takes about 7h30m to print.

I started to notice noise from the printer. And it sounds like it’s coming from the extruder running along the upper x-axis rod.

now I can see that the actual rod is getting scored. It’s nail catching deep. Runs about 7” across the bar.

anyone help with the solving the problem?

Posted : 17/05/2021 6:57 pm
cwbullet
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

Can you post a photo?

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Posted : 17/05/2021 7:42 pm
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?
Posted by: @frank-10

now I can see that the actual rod is getting scored. It’s nail catching deep. Runs about 7” across the bar.

1: What grease did you use when you cleaned and degreased the linear bushings before they got installed?

2: Did any of the bearings drop out when you inserted the rods? 

Posted : 17/05/2021 8:01 pm
Frank
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/PwoV4VFtCayfBYo19

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Posted : 17/05/2021 8:32 pm
Frank
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

@tim-2

Hi Tim

1. no grease. Used straight from the pack which contained lubricant.

2. no bearings fell out.

 

 

Posted : 17/05/2021 8:35 pm
Frank
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

@cwbullet

Please see photo here

https://photos.app.goo.gl/PwoV4VFtCayfBYo19

Posted : 17/05/2021 8:36 pm
cwbullet
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

@frank-10

Can you post an image of "actual rod score"?  Which side of the rod is it on?

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Posted : 17/05/2021 8:40 pm
Frank
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

@cwbullet

Hi CW…The photo link shows the scored rod…do you need a closer photo?

Posted : 17/05/2021 10:13 pm
Frank
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

video of the noise my printer is making. Only during 45 degree strokes

Posted : 17/05/2021 10:56 pm
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

This is a Misumi bearing as shipped. The amber liquid in the baggy is NOT lubricant.

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Posted : 17/05/2021 11:41 pm
Frank
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

Hi Tim,

    Thx for the reply. Please see a pic of the MK3S+ assembly instructions for Y-Axis. It clearly says the bearings are lubricated.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/gwsuVEWqH1PQTSLE9

Posted : 18/05/2021 4:22 am
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

@frank-10

Yep - and I own a bridge in England I'd like to sell you right now for only a mere $200,000 in BitCoin to this address:

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Prusa has been telling this lie since they started shipping Mk3 printers. They finally broke down and started telling Mini owners they must grease the bearings.

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Posted : 18/05/2021 4:23 am
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

@frank-10

Oh, by the way Frank, how are those "lubricated bearings" holding up?  Honest - I've tried to tell people they must grease the bearings; I have pleaded with Prusa to tell people to grease their bearings. But here you are.

I'd be calling mailing screaming kicking my way to Prusa's front door.  They'd be shipping me a new set of rods and bearings overnight express, and paying any and all duties.

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Posted : 18/05/2021 4:28 am
cwbullet
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

Well, they now tell you to lubricate them and sell the lubricant.  I would start doing so. 

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Posted : 18/05/2021 9:48 am
MinorMatt
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

If they now tell you to lubricate them - it must be very new!  My kit which arrived less than 2 weeks ago said they are pre-lubricated.  I guess I'm going to be doing a partial strip down 🙁

Posted : 18/05/2021 9:55 am
cwbullet
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

I have not built one in a year but the maintenance clearly says you need to do so.  

https://help.prusa3d.com/en/article/i3-printers-regular-maintenance_2072/

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Chuck H
3D Printer Review Blog

Posted : 18/05/2021 10:31 am
MinorMatt
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

The build manual still says they are pre-lubricated...

I would expect lubrication to be added/changed as part of a maintenance regime.

Posted : 18/05/2021 10:33 am
cwbullet
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

@minormatt

You are right it is not there.  I must have read that on the forum.  Probably form @Tim.  

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Chuck H
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Posted : 18/05/2021 10:34 am
MinorMatt
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

Prusa Knowledge Base | 2. Y-axis assembly (prusa3d.com) 

Step 19 for example "The printer's package contains a lubricant, which is intended for maintenance. No need to use it now the bearings are lubricated. "

Posted : 18/05/2021 10:41 am
cwbullet
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RE: Extruder scoring the upper x-axis smooth rod?

@minormatt

I think that is the point of contention that either they are not well lubricated or not lubricated at all and people need to lubricate at the start and soon thereafter.  

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Chuck H
3D Printer Review Blog

Posted : 18/05/2021 10:43 am
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