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                        <title>Re: Problem : Lost same steps in x/y</title>
                        <link>https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk2-s-others-archive/problem-lost-same-steps-in-x-y/#post-16137</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2016 09:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[You hardly convince somebody to use belt for $30 when there is belt for $2 and the only visible difference is numeric constant used in software. It&#039;s sad but it&#039;s reality.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<t>You hardly convince somebody to use belt for $30 when there is belt for $2 and the only visible difference is numeric constant used in software. It's sad but it's reality.</t>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk2-s-others-archive/">Others (Archive)</category>                        <dc:creator>David T.</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Problem : Lost same steps in x/y</title>
                        <link>https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk2-s-others-archive/problem-lost-same-steps-in-x-y/#post-16128</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2016 03:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I guess supplying and making stuff at home and not relying on China for parts, may be good for the West.  When will we ever learn? Bottom dollar is often not top quality. Lets make things at...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<t>I guess supplying and making stuff at home and not relying on China for parts, may be good for the West.  When will we ever learn? Bottom dollar is often not top quality. Lets make things at home again. Bring home manufacturing and quality products and parts.</t>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk2-s-others-archive/">Others (Archive)</category>                        <dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Problem : Lost same steps in x/y</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2016 03:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Is there a better quality belt upgrade?]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<t>Is there a better quality belt upgrade?</t>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk2-s-others-archive/">Others (Archive)</category>                        <dc:creator>Rutilate</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Problem : Lost same steps in x/y</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2016 13:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Allright, once again.
The firmware relies on the fact, that tooth pitch of GT2 belt is 2mm per tooth.
So if you want to make 100mm move, the pulley must pass 50 teeth.

If GT2 tooth pitch is...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<t>Allright, once again.<br/>
The firmware relies on the fact, that tooth pitch of GT2 belt is 2mm per tooth.<br/>
So if you want to make 100mm move, the pulley must pass 50 teeth.<br/>
<br/>
If GT2 tooth pitch is smaller (less than 2mm per tooth, teeth closer to each other), it makes shorter move = printed objects come out smaller.</t>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk2-s-others-archive/">Others (Archive)</category>                        <dc:creator>David T.</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Problem : Lost same steps in x/y</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2016 13:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[His prints come out smaller than intended, it means belts have teeth closer to each other than 2mm.

David

You may want to review that.

Peter]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<QUOTE author="david.t2">His prints come out smaller than intended, it means belts have teeth closer to each other than 2mm.</QUOTE>

David<br/>
<br/>
You may want to review that.<br/>
<br/>
Peter]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk2-s-others-archive/">Others (Archive)</category>                        <dc:creator>PJR</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Problem : Lost same steps in x/y</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2016 13:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Kai may have slightly over tightened and caused the difference.
I don&#039;t think so. His prints come out smaller than intended, it means belts have teeth closer to each other than 2mm. Exactly ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<QUOTE author="PJR">Kai may have slightly over tightened and caused the difference.</QUOTE>
I don't think so. His prints come out smaller than intended, it means belts have teeth closer to each other than 2mm. Exactly what I measured.<br/>
BTW you need really extreme force to stretch GT2 belt. I tried to make it stretched to 2mm per tooth (200mm per 100 teeth) on Y axis. The force was so strong it made 8mm threaded rods on Y frame bended together. Unusable.]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk2-s-others-archive/">Others (Archive)</category>                        <dc:creator>David T.</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Problem : Lost same steps in x/y</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[[quote=&quot;david.t2&quot;100 teeth was 199.5mm not 200mm.

David

That is to allow for stretching and tight belts.  Kai may have slightly over tightened and caused the difference.

Peter]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<t>[quote="david.t2"100 teeth was 199.5mm not 200mm.<br/>
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David<br/>
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That is to allow for stretching and tight belts.  Kai may have slightly over tightened and caused the difference.<br/>
<br/>
Peter</t>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk2-s-others-archive/">Others (Archive)</category>                        <dc:creator>PJR</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Problem : Lost same steps in x/y</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2016 11:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The problem is that GT2 belts (especially Chinese ones) don&#039;t usually have accurate tooth pitch. Should be 2mm/tooth, but when I measured new belt, 100 teeth was 199.5mm not 200mm. Firmware ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[The problem is that GT2 belts (especially Chinese ones) don't usually have accurate tooth pitch. Should be 2mm/tooth, but when I measured new belt, 100 teeth was 199.5mm not 200mm. Firmware relies on this value. When this happen, firmware configuration must be adjusted accordingly, that's why there is M92 command. ;-)<br/>
I've created this calibration object recently <a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1818250">http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1818250</a><br/>
It usually takes only one test print to adjust steps/mm to correct values.]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/original-prusa-i3-mk2-s-others-archive/">Others (Archive)</category>                        <dc:creator>David T.</dc:creator>
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                        <title>Re: Problem : Lost same steps in x/y</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2016 01:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Hallo Peter

Thanks for the quick help. (change the steps/mm)

But i am sorry, every 10mm 0,04mm less is for me not good.
My Mk1 print a 180mm x180mm block with 179.8mm x 179.8mm that is ok....]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hallo Peter<br/>
<br/>
Thanks for the quick help. (change the steps/mm)<br/>
<br/>
But i am sorry, every 10mm 0,04mm less is for me not good.<br/>
My Mk1 print a 180mm x180mm block with 179.8mm x 179.8mm that is ok.<br/>
My Mk2 print with 179.1 x 179.1 <br/>
<br/>
I see at the Mk1 that Prusa can make it better.<br/>
<br/>
But now i try the M92. At the first moment it look realy great with the hand step now 100mm = 99.95mm  :D<br/>
<br/>
Yes and now is the print perfect.<br/>
<br/>
Thank so much]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>Re: Problem : Lost same steps in x/y</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2016 22:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Kai

That is pretty good; I don&#039;t think you should be complaining!

There are a couple of things you could do; try printing perimeters first, slow down the print and if all else fails, chang...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<t>Kai<br/>
<br/>
That is pretty good; I don't think you should be complaining!<br/>
<br/>
There are a couple of things you could do; try printing perimeters first, slow down the print and if all else fails, change the steps/mm - there are plenty of posts detailing how to do this.<br/>
<br/>
Peter</t>]]></content:encoded>
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