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buckeyestargazer
(@buckeyestargazer)
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Initial layer, border problem

After the prime line is printed, there is a border that is printed around the model to be printed, defining the area inside which the model is printed.  I'm having a problem with that border.  What happens is that the prime line prints fine, but when it moves to the middle of the plate for printing that border the filament does not start or adhere to the plate until it has gone about 20mm.  This results in some stringing that interferes with the first layer of the model print and eventually it creates the dreaded blob on the nozzle.  See attached.  

This is  PETG filament and what I don't understand is that it only happens with this particular roll of filament.  I print with PETG and PLA with other brands and they come out perfect.  

Any suggestions for stopping this?  

Posted : 20/06/2020 10:02 pm
Crawlerin
(@crawlerin)
Prominent Member
RE: Initial layer, border problem

Clean your surface thoroughly, I can see some finger smudges around. Clean with IPA and  then wet it with window cleaner if you print PETG on smooth sheet. PETG likes to stick to the nozzle - or everywhere for that matter, it can then deposit the accumulated blob somewhere on the print, then next pass of nozzle knocks it off and can tear layer below it if it does not stick to the surface properly. 

Posted : 20/06/2020 10:51 pm
buckeyestargazer
(@buckeyestargazer)
Estimable Member
Topic starter answered:
RE: Initial layer, border problem
Posted by: @crawlerin

Clean your surface thoroughly, I can see some finger smudges around. Clean with IPA and  then wet it with window cleaner if you print PETG on smooth sheet. PETG likes to stick to the nozzle - or everywhere for that matter, it can then deposit the accumulated blob somewhere on the print, then next pass of nozzle knocks it off and can tear layer below it if it does not stick to the surface properly. 

That's not the problem.  Those smudges were deposited after the fact.  I do clean and use windex, which works perfectly with every other PETG roll I have. 

So do you think the problem is that the filament is not sticking to the bed?  If so, what would improve that?

Posted : 20/06/2020 10:54 pm
buckeyestargazer
(@buckeyestargazer)
Estimable Member
Topic starter answered:
RE: Initial layer, border problem

So I raised the nozzle temperature significantly higher than I normally do for PETG, and lowered the bed temp a little bit and so far so good.  The initial border printed perfectly and so far the print is going well.  Fingers crossed.

Posted : 20/06/2020 11:46 pm
Crawlerin
(@crawlerin)
Prominent Member
RE: Initial layer, border problem

@buckeyestargazer

Cool 🙂 I am sorry I did not know smudges were the post-print. 

Posted : 22/06/2020 11:20 pm
buckeyestargazer
(@buckeyestargazer)
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Topic starter answered:
RE: Initial layer, border problem
Posted by: @crawlerin

@buckeyestargazer

Cool 🙂 I am sorry I did not know smudges were the post-print. 

No problem.  😀 

Posted : 22/06/2020 11:22 pm
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