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fderry
(@fderry)
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Z Axis Adjust Issue

Hi,

I just received my Original Mini+ earlier this week and am pleased with it but I have a question.

Back ground - I setup with the smooth plate (also bought the textured plate).  During calibration I had to set the Z axis offset at -1.86 to get the correct pattern and adhesion to the base plate.  I printed a Benchy from the included USB drive with the included filament (green).  It was one of the best Benchies that I have seen!  I then printed a holder for the filament runout sensor with the included filament (black).  This too was an excellent print. 

I then moved to Prusament PETG Prusa Orange for a carrying handle.  I decided to try the textured plate for this print.  I maxed out at -2.0 when I ran calibration and still could not get good adhesion.  Went back to smooth plate and calibrated at -1.76.  I had too much adhesion at -1.86 and read that PETG needed less squish than PLA.  In this configuration the handle printed well but had some defects (still usable).

I am using Prusa Slicer for all my slicing.

My question is can the Z axes be manually adjusted so that I can use the software Z axis adjust for the Z axis with the textured plate?

Thanks,

Frank

Posted : 17/07/2021 3:24 am
BogdanH
(@bogdanh)
Honorable Member
RE: Adjust PINDA

Try to pull up PINDA sensor for about 0.5-1.0mm. Or to put it otherwise: distance between bottom of the PINDA and print sheet (when nozzle tip just touches the print sheet) should be about 1.5mm. That way you usable Z-offset will be more in the middle range (between -0.500 and -1.00).
Of course, after you reposition PINDA, you need to run fresh first layer calibration, starting with default (zero) Z-offset.

Don't pull up PINDA sensor too much, because in that case nozzle can hit (damage) print sheet at auto bed leveling.

[Mini+] [MK3S+BEAR]

Posted : 17/07/2021 7:38 am
FoxRun3D
(@foxrun3d)
Famed Member

If you're close to or above -2, I would reposition the PINDA higher.

The Super PINDA should have about 1.5 mm distance between nozzle and SPINDA, so that you’re around -1 when your Live Z is correct.

Instructions for adjusting the PINDA are in Step 16 of https://help.prusa3d.com/en/guide/how-to-replace-superpinda-mini-mini_179912.

I put this little helper on Prusaprinters.org to help position the SPINDA: https://www.prusaprinters.org/prints/57192-spinda-height-adjustment-tool-mounts-into-3030-ext. Works better than zip ties or credit cards, which have less well-defined heights.

B. The textured (and satin) sheets are about 0.4mm thinner than the smooth sheet, so need more negative Live Z. So if you're at -1.86 for the smooth sheet, you're never going to get to about -2.2 without repositioning the SPINDA.

Formerly known on this forum as @fuchsr -- until all hell broke loose with the forum software...

Posted : 17/07/2021 11:51 am
fderry
(@fderry)
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Topic starter answered:
Z Axis Adjust Issue

Thank you both for the advice!  New to the Mini+ and 3D printing.  I started with an Ender 3 Pro and it was/is a learning experience.  Seems like I was adjusting/working on it or on the internet learning about 3D printing more than printing.  I bought the Mini+ because I felt it was more user friendly out of the box.  Being a retired engineer I have a bit of a problem with the "adjust with a piece of paper" advice for the Ender 3.  I want approximate clearances in mm or in.  I have real life feeler gauges.  Your replies are very helpful.

fucher - I will down load your tool.

Again - thank you both for your help!

Posted : 17/07/2021 5:31 pm
fderry
(@fderry)
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Topic starter answered:
Z Axis Adjust Issue

fuchsr - I apologize for mis-spelling your handle in my reply.

Posted : 17/07/2021 5:43 pm
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