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                        <title>RE: Extruder motor stops while printing, even with empty load (extruder disassembled)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 19:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Good catch with the motor specs, frankly speaking I am surprised that extruder motor does not have DC voltage specs in the table as other motors, so yeah swapping cables could be dangerous (...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch with the motor specs, frankly speaking I am surprised that extruder motor does not have DC voltage specs in the table as other motors, so yeah swapping cables could be dangerous (but for a short time and small movements it wouldn't be that much of a difference).</p><p>Glad to hear that you managed to fix the issue, though.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Extruder motor stops while printing, even with empty load (extruder disassembled)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 10:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Well. I reassembled the extruder, and now it&#039;s working again.Before today, the extruder&#039;s tension screw had no effect, no matter how much I tightened or loosened it, even after a disassembly...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well. I reassembled the extruder, and now it's working again.</p><p>Before today, the extruder's tension screw had no effect, no matter how much I tightened or loosened it, even after a disassembly and reassembly. After today's reassembly, I actually had to tighten it for the filament to load.</p><p>This is an unsatisfying resolution, but at least it's a resolution. Thank you both for your time.</p>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/hardware-firmware-and-software-help/">Hardware, firmware and software help</category>                        <dc:creator>val</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: Extruder motor stops while printing, even with empty load (extruder disassembled)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 08:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I have an update. I mentioned before that while troubleshooting the issue, I completely disassembled the extruder so the motor has no load. And since it wasn&#039;t driving any filament, I turned...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an update. I mentioned before that while troubleshooting the issue, I completely disassembled the extruder so the motor has no load. And since it wasn't driving any filament, I turned the nozzle and bed temperature down to avoid unnecessary fire hazards while the printer is partially disassembled.</p><p>And it turns out that every instance of the motor getting stuck since I disassembled the extruder was because... the controller blocks the motor whenever the temperature goes under 170°C (which happens to be the temperature used for bed leveling with PETG -- which is what I use). As soon as it is 170°C (or higher), the motor is unstuck.</p><p>When I keep the nozzle temperature above 170°C, the motor does not seem to get stuck when it has no load.</p>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/hardware-firmware-and-software-help/">Hardware, firmware and software help</category>                        <dc:creator>val</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 07:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Test load/unload filament which forces to do a fast rotations.

No issue with those. (Though once the motor stops moving, asking for a load/unload does not make it move either.)

Check i...]]></description>
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<p>Test load/unload filament which forces to do a fast rotations.</p>
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<p>No issue with those. (Though once the motor stops moving, asking for a load/unload does not make it move either.)</p>
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<p>Check if the connections in the connectors in the cables are tight ( if you plug/unplug them they may become loose and don't have a proper contact with the pins in the board.</p>
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<p>They seem fine. I unplugged and replugged a few times, no change.</p>
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<p>Extract the extruder motor and try to rotate it with a fingers, can you feel any irregularities/obstacles when doing it?</p>
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<p>When unpowered? Yes, I think so.</p>
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<p>If yes then maybe motor is damaged physically - in best scenario disassembling it and cleaning the bearing would be possible, in worst case get a new motor.</p>
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<p>I'm considering it. I'd just like to make sure the issue is in the motor and not the controller.</p>
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<p>Try to swap plugs with another motor, for example X axis with extruder, and see if the X motor is reacting properly - this way you can detect if the fail is in the motor or in the electronics on the control board.</p>
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<p>Is that safe? According to https://github.com/prusa3d/Original-Prusa-MINI/blob/master/DOCUMENTATION/ELECTRONICS/mini-motor-kit.pdf the extruder motor does not have the same specs as the other ones.</p>
<p>It's also pretty hard to try because this only happens during a print (so the printer has to be assembled for the pre-print calibration to work), but I can't let it drive the X motor thinking it's the extruder because it would crash into the end of the axis. So I would have to disassemble the X axis while it is printing (and quickly enough to be done before the motor gets stuck).</p>
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<p>For what it's worth, I finally managed to interpose a breadboard between the controller and the motor, to measure voltage. Once the motor is stuck, voltages on the two coils are 3.7V and 0.2V; and never change until I reboot the printer. Even pausing the print does not change them.</p>
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<p>Check main board for damages or signs if the wear out, for example swollen tops on the capacitors.</p>
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<p>Good call. It looks fine.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: Extruder motor stops while printing, even with empty load (extruder disassembled)</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 06:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Test load/unload filament which forces to do a fast rotations.Check if the cables are not tangled with the other cables, which can cause interferences of the signal. Check if the connections...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Test load/unload filament which forces to do a fast rotations.</p><p>Check if the cables are not tangled with the other cables, which can cause interferences of the signal. Check if the connections in the connectors in the cables are tight ( if you plug/unplug them they may become loose and don't have a proper contact with the pins in the board.</p><p>Extract the extruder motor and try to rotate it with a fingers, can you feel any irregularities/obstacles when doing it? If yes then maybe motor is damaged physically - in best scenario disassembling it and cleaning the bearing would be possible, in worst case get a new motor.</p><p>Try to swap plugs with another motor, for example X axis with extruder, and see if the X motor is reacting properly - this way you can detect if the fail is in the motor or in the electronics on the control board.</p><p>Check main board for damages or signs if the wear out, for example swollen tops on the capacitors.</p><p> </p><p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 03:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[General neglect, dust and cobwebs.. Basic cleaning, lubrication and general maintenance have all been missed.
See:

The motor is clean on the outside, and does not seem to be designed to b...]]></description>
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<p>General neglect, dust and cobwebs.. Basic cleaning, lubrication and general maintenance have all been missed.</p>
<p>See: https://help.prusa3d.com/en/article/regular-maintenance-mini_133222</p>
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<p>The motor is clean on the outside, and does not seem to be designed to be opened.</p>
<p>None of these mention maintenance required by the extruder motor. And I do mean the <a href="https://www.prusa3d.com/product/stepper-motor-e-axis-extruder-mini/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">extruder motor</a>, not the rest of the extruder.</p>
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<p>A dirty print bed. Give it a really thorough clean and avoid touching the print area.</p>
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<p>My problem is not about bed adhesion</p>
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<p>Damp filament. Look up threads here about drying filament especially if it has been left open.</p>
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<p>The motor gets stuck even when it is not driving anything. So it can't be a filament issue. The filament I used was brand new and sealed anyway.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 23:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The three common reasons for prints suddenly failing after a printer has been unused for a while:General neglect, dust and cobwebs... Basic cleaning, lubrication and general maintenance have...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The three common reasons for prints suddenly failing after a printer has been unused for a while:</p><p>General neglect, dust and cobwebs... Basic cleaning, lubrication and general maintenance have all been missed.</p><p>See: https://help.prusa3d.com/en/article/regular-maintenance-mini_133222</p><p>A dirty print bed. Give it a really thorough clean and avoid touching the print area.</p><p>Damp filament. Look up threads here about drying filament especially if it has been left open.</p><p>Cheerio,</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t used my printer for a a few weeks, then started again this week, with a new filament spool which is heavier than usual (3kg) and a newer version of PrusaSlicer (2.9.2 instead of 2....]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven't used my printer for a a few weeks, then started again this week, with a new filament spool which is heavier than usual (3kg) and a newer version of PrusaSlicer (2.9.2 instead of 2.5.0).</p><p>Since then, the extrusion motor often stops during prints. The printer does not detect it is stuck.</p><p>This happens even when using .gcode generated with the older PrusaSlicer, and even with the extruder completely disassembled (ie. the motor does not drive any gear).</p><p>Then, once stuck, the motor rarely starts again until I restart the printer. It managed to unstuck itself once after pausing/resuming a print, but usually does not.</p><p>Unplugging and replugging it from the controller board does not help. Though even when stuck, it does spin just a little bit the moment I plug it back to the control board.</p><p>While stuck, it is still pretty warm, and emits the same slight white noise it does when not stuck.</p><p> </p><p>Should I replace the motor? The controller? Both?</p><p>Is the 3kg spool a red herring, or should I avoid those in the future?</p><p> </p><p>Thank you for your answers</p>]]></content:encoded>
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