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                        <pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2025 16:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I was given free pursament galaxy black PLA with my new printer.  I opened up to give it a try, 4 failures in a row. I had printed the object with another manufacture of PETG and had no fail...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was given free pursament galaxy black PLA with my new printer.  I opened up to give it a try, 4 failures in a row. I had printed the object with another manufacture of PETG and had no failures, just ran out of PETG, tried the PLA with appropriate settings and man this stuff is bad. Looks bad printing, brittle and stringy looking. I won't be buying this junk any time soon.</p>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/english-forum-original-prusa-i3-mk4s-assembly-and-first-prints-troubleshooting/">Assembly and first prints troubleshooting</category>                        <dc:creator>XL beta tester for far too long</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 14:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I agree about Prusament blend OhMyGold. Worst PLA I ever tried. Fragile as thin glass and terrible layer adhesion. I also dried the filament but that didn&#039;t make any difference. Although not...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about Prusament blend OhMyGold. Worst PLA I ever tried. Fragile as thin glass and terrible layer adhesion. I also dried the filament but that didn't make any difference. Although not that bad as this one, I've found similar issues with other Prusament PLA <strong>blend</strong> colors (royal blue and pearl white). Regular Prusament PLA has been always fine but I'm not buying more PLA blend from Prusa.  </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[in my case, especially with the &quot;oh my gold&quot; filament, no matter what I do I get prints with horrible layer adhesion. Basically whatever I print easily snaps open at random layers boundaries...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in my case, especially with the "oh my gold" filament, no matter what I do I get prints with horrible layer adhesion. Basically whatever I print easily snaps open at random layers boundaries. I had the problem with my old mks3, and I tested recently with my mk4s that otherwise prints perfectly, same easy breaks. I did dry the filament as well, still no joy. I wonder what would make this particular problem go away... any suggestion gladly received as I really like the color :D </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 11:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Luck of the draw, I don&#039;t think it is color-specific.  You can buy 100 rolls; all work perfectly, and 101 is wet.  I have found no rhyme or reason to it.  I had a roll of white Bambu ABS.  I...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luck of the draw, I don't think it is color-specific.  You can buy 100 rolls; all work perfectly, and 101 is wet.  I have found no rhyme or reason to it.  I had a roll of white Bambu ABS.  I printed 10 to 20 rolls of this stuff—no issue with jams.  The next roll is one I cannot print.  It jams every time I try to print.   </p><blockquote data-userid="512590" data-postid="734286" data-mention="iftibashir"><div class="wpforo-post-quote-author"><strong> Posted by: @iftibashir </strong></div><p>Strange - I print with these colours and make no changes whatsoever (and I never dry my PLA) - no issues at all........</p></blockquote><p> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 08:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Strange - I print with these colours and make no changes whatsoever (and I never dry my PLA) - no issues at all........]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange - I print with these colours and make no changes whatsoever (and I never dry my PLA) - no issues at all........</p>]]></content:encoded>
                        <category domain="https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/english-forum-original-prusa-i3-mk4s-assembly-and-first-prints-troubleshooting/">Assembly and first prints troubleshooting</category>                        <dc:creator>iftibashir</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2025 13:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Aside from what was said above, my personal experience with Galaxy Red and Prusa Yellow were a complete desaster, no matter if directly from a dry box, in my old MK3, the new MK4 (now 4S), w...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from what was said above, my personal experience with Galaxy Red and Prusa Yellow were a complete desaster, no matter if directly from a dry box, in my old MK3, the new MK4 (now 4S), w/o or with enclosure the layer adhesion is a desaster and I've never figured out how to fix it. Never got any problem like these with all other Prusament PLA, PETG, or PCBlend filaments I use.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2025 20:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really not much a fan of how the Prusament Galaxy Red has been printing now that the machine is working. I will remember the cubic, so far I&#039;m liking Gyroid.I got some other filaments: P...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm really not much a fan of how the Prusament Galaxy Red has been printing now that the machine is working. I will remember the cubic, so far I'm liking Gyroid.</p><p>I got some other filaments: PLA, PLA+ and PETG. My favorite so far is the PLA+.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2025 02:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[... also, that red filament is damp and for those parts you would do better with cubic infill instead of grid.Cheerio,]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>... also, that red filament is damp and for those parts you would do better with cubic infill instead of grid.</p><p>Cheerio,</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jan 2025 23:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I figured it out.. It was the Extruder Gearbox, gears were binding.Here&#039;s how I figured it... I start to print swatches for testing. I noticed that when I tried to hand feed it into the extr...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I figured it out.. </p><p>It was the Extruder Gearbox, gears were binding.</p><p>Here's how I figured it... I start to print swatches for testing. I noticed that when I tried to hand feed it into the extruder it did better, not fixed. But I also notice I was hearing clicking from the extruder when it was crapping out. Mhmmmmmm</p><p>So I reassembled and re-lubed it. And now it is working perfectly. I ran a 5 hour print after and it didn't miss anything, plus no more clicking.</p><p>I don't care what anyone says, even it's Prusa himself... clicking and periodic rubbing sounds from a gearbox is always death. The gears in the build tutorial didn't mesh like my gears when I was assembling it. It looks like they added a 10 or 15 thou backlash to the ring gear which is why it's looser looking when I built mine. When I tested it by rotating the gear with the little printed tool, I believe it forced one of the gears to advance one tooth.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 30 Dec 2024 18:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[New MK4S is already failing on 5th print 🙁Hello community...I just finished building my printer mk4s standard kit a few days ago. I have been trying to figure out why the printer is doing th...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New MK4S is already failing on 5th print 🙁</p><p>Hello community...</p><p>I just finished building my printer mk4s standard kit a few days ago. I have been trying to figure out why the printer is doing this. <br />These are ALL my first to last prints from left to right (I haven't printed anything else).</p><p><a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2024/12/31b643c7-20241229_183042-scaled.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-172932" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2024/12/31b643c7-20241229_183042-600x500.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p> </p><p>This is my last print.. I used the Prusament PLA setting (galaxy red). I set temps 220/55 first layer, 215/50 there on and I used 0.2 structural. Other settings were left stock. (I obviously stopped the print when I saw it going to la-la land)</p><p><a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2024/12/1a7424c3-20241229_191940-scaled.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-172931" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2024/12/1a7424c3-20241229_191940-600x500.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p> </p><p>Here's other closer up images of the prints (first time hooking up the galaxy red):Left most is was face down on bed. Right two are bed side down.</p><p><a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2024/12/b212f103-20241229_183227-scaled.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-172933" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2024/12/b212f103-20241229_183227-600x500.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p> </p><p>This layer easily separated, was pretty brittle:</p><p><a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2024/12/8db1a04f-20241229_183445-scaled.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-172930" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2024/12/8db1a04f-20241229_183445-600x500.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p> </p><p>It didn't make really any difference changing the filament type, (I was first using generic PLA settings):It's like it skipped a layer or so.. That second piece of Benchy's hull is flipped over to show... whatever I can...</p><p><a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2024/12/2f4be347-20241229_183234-scaled.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-172929" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/prusa3d-content-prod-14e8-wordpress-forum-prod/2024/12/2f4be347-20241229_183234-600x500.jpg" alt="" width="600" height="500" /></a></p><p> </p><p>Things I have tried:</p><p>Following the instructions, built by an Old OCD physicist/engineer/it educated stickler.Changing temps between 215-230 and 50-60, raising and lowing flow rate (100%-110%),103%-105% seemed ok, it was help with the extrusion crapping on some runs, but didn't totally fix it.Which might be a second issue not sure, but the extrusion craps out on outlines, even on first layer.Lubing Z rods and screw pole thingies.Talking down to it ("You're a washed up old actress!")Cleaned print surfaces, purged nozzle, (unloaded, reloaded, purged x4) tightened extruder gear idler, loosed extruder gear idler.Changed room temps. Opened windows (~60 Deg F colder, more humid 60%), closed window (~73 Deg F ambient room, no air flow, low humid 45%)</p><p>By the way, my Ikea table dances like an authentic gypsy belly dancer. It didn't affect my first print so I assumed it wasn't the issue. I'm going to put it on something more solid next time just to try it for giggles when I get home today (not expecting a difference)</p><p>Ideas:</p><p>So........ I have this idea that the z-axis is being yanked upward when it pulled more feed off the spool. I noted that the filament that had zero resistance (the sample black and grey that came with the printer. I just kind of just put it on spool handles. Is this a thing that occurs? The extrusion gear seems to have good grip... I think, although there's no spec to how tight it should be. The galaxy red spool isn't on bearings, it's just on the handles. I am going to try it when I get some home today, if anything cut a smaller piece of PLA for testing.</p><p>I'm sure one of you wizards should have some suggestions... I'm doing the best I can to keep positive about this purchase if you know what I mean.</p><p>Thanks. LMK</p>]]></content:encoded>
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