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RickR
(@rickr-2)
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Removing support structures

I am trying to print a ballerina with support a support structure. I am having trouble removing the support structure without breaking the ballerina. Any recommendations of how to remove support structures without breaking the piece? (I am using the Prusa Slicer and an i3 MKS3 printer)

Posted : 06/08/2021 8:01 pm
bobstro
(@bobstro)
Illustrious Member
Removable supports are a challenge

The key to removable supports is providing enough separation between the supports and the supported part that the support can be easily removed, while still providing support for overhangs. Unfortunately, supported layers are never going to look as good as layers printed without overhangs.

  • For support to be removable, there has to be a gap between supports and supported layers.

  • That gap means the supported layer is literally printed in thin air.

  • You often need to increase the size of the gap (Z contact distance) to improve ease of removal.

  • The supported layers print without any squish onto layer beneath, so have a circular cross-section and tend to sag slightly.

There are a few things you can try to improve appearance when using supports:

  • Re-orient the part on the print bed to reduce the need for supports.

  • If you are designing the parts, you can design in some easily remove “sacrificial supports”.

  • Slice the part into smaller portions that don’t require supports and assemble them after printing.

Otherwise, finding a good balance of separation is important on the XY and Z axis. Here are the settings I change:

 

Setting

Value

Contact Z distance

0.25mm

Pattern spacing

3mm

Interface layers

4

Interface pattern spacing

0.2mm

Interface loops

Off

XY separation

75%

Don’t support bridges

On

Support settings can be found under Print Settings->Support material in PrusaSlicer.

I've got some more notes here that might be helpful. If the ballerina has lots of fine details like fingers and hair, you may find that Cura's tree supports are easier to work with. Prusa is constantly improving PrusaSlicer and is in the process of updating supports, but for now, PS supports can be tricky.

My notes and disclaimers on 3D printing

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Posted : 06/08/2021 9:03 pm
Diem
 Diem
(@diem)
Illustrious Member

... and for the removal process itself needle nosed pliers help to crush the support close to the model which eases the process.

Cheerio,

Posted : 06/08/2021 9:55 pm
RickR
(@rickr-2)
New Member
Topic starter answered:
Thanks

Thanks for the helpful reply!!

Posted : 07/08/2021 5:00 pm
RickR
(@rickr-2)
New Member
Topic starter answered:
Change Print Settings-> Support Material

When I try to change the support settings they are locked.

How do I turn off the lock?

Posted : 07/08/2021 5:37 pm
JoanTabb
(@joantabb)
Veteran Member Moderator
Open the Box?

have you ticked the top box?

 

Joan

 

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Posted : 07/08/2021 5:43 pm
RickR
(@rickr-2)
New Member
Topic starter answered:
Changing Settings

Finally got it to work.

Thanks for help

Posted : 08/08/2021 3:48 pm
Robin_13
(@robin_13)
Reputable Member
RE: Removing support structures

I am surprised that no one mentioned organic supports and painting on supports to minimize the location of the support.  If bridging is set correct, minimal supports can be used. 

A good quality scalpel or razor knife is needed.  If the parts are small, get/print a small jewellers vise to hold the small parts while working on them.  Better for safety and less likely that stray force will be put in an area that you are not working on.  3D print an adapter to fit in a normal bench vise to hold smaller parts.

Posted : 26/02/2024 4:14 pm
_KaszpiR_
(@_kaszpir_)
Prominent Member
RE: Removing support structures

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Posted : 27/08/2024 6:11 am
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