Olson Ruby VS E3d Nozzle X  

RE: Olson Ruby VS E3d Nozzle X

Shipping without tracking is five dollars.

RE: Olson Ruby VS E3d Nozzle X

Not to the UK it's not 🙂 

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@mop

No.  I only ordered the 0.6 and 0.8.  I'd love to replace all of my nozzles with the Spool 3D Tungsten Carbide but I need to sell some more prints first!

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@charles-h13

I wish!

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Yep, you guys made another sale here too.

Its going to cost me AUD $68.10 (the Ruby one I was looking at was going to cost me AUD $69.01) and my wife WILL kill me but if it makes it possible to print abrasives long term, great!

RE: Olson Ruby VS E3d Nozzle X

i am starting some reviews.  I got behind.  I will probably post some nozzle reviews by Christmas.  

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I found that 3DMaker Engineering produces its own version of tungsten carbide V6 nozzle (and now it's available again); is it a product of comparable quality respect that of Spool3d? I would like to replace my 0.4 E3D copper-nichel nozzle (i like it and i prefer it to the brass one) with it (or at least test it), just to be able to print abrasive materials from time to time without having to constantly change the nozzle (with Nozzle X, which however does not satisfy me with the non-abrasive PLA printing).

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We got a lot of experience in our company with the mentioned nozzles. Here my opinion after 3 years:

Olson Ruby: Super expensive, good for abrasive material but not well made. The heat transfer is worse than any steel nozzle due to the press fit design of the inner brass tube into the nozzle shell. Also worse print quality than any regular brass nozzle. I was happy when it finally clogged up with PA-GF30 after one spool

Nozzle X: Was happy and the quality was really good. But they tend to clogg easier than brass and are steel, so they need a new profile /more heat. Survived at least 2-3 spool with PA6-GF30 or material like this. Only realy problem I encountered was the coating completly cloggs the nozzle permanently when trying to print Prusament PC-CF. Killed 5 nozzle with this material and then had to switch

Oscar3D Ruby nozzle: Just a dream. Runs now since 3 years in two of our printers without any clogg and no wear after more than 20 spools of abrasive material. They are from Amazon (Germany) and are only 39€, so almost same price as Nozzle-X. They print like brass nozzles but with a ruby tip, so are the perfect alrounder. Only downside they are only availible >=0,4mm

All the tested nozzles were 0,4mm. For 0,25mm and 0,15mm we only use regular E3D brass ones.

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After severla years of printing, to be honest, I tend to just use the brass nozzles and replace them more often.  

RE: Olson Ruby VS E3d Nozzle X

Hi Chuck

Have you ever tried a copper-nichel nozzle for non-abrasive material?

RE: Olson Ruby VS E3d Nozzle X

Yes.  Not worth the extra cost.  I used Nozzle X and Tungsten on on printer each.  I also use Vanadium nozzle on my Mosquitos.  I have tested them vs. Brass.  The brass wears more, but I am not sure it is worth the difference. With brass, I use them until I have less quality and toss them.  I will get a few months out of them rather than 1+ years.  

Posted by: @lopcot

Hi Chuck

Have you ever tried a copper-nichel nozzle for non-abrasive material?

RE: Olson Ruby VS E3d Nozzle X

Oscar3D Ruby nozzle:

Which of their two types did you use? The "ECO" with the flat tip?

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I never tried ruby or hardened steel nozzles. Not really needed with the filaments I use ( mostly PLA or PETG, sometimes TPU, PP or PC )

My current choice for those filaments are nickel plated copper nozzles. They don’t cost much more than good quality brass and seem to last several times more. Brass nozzles have not only to be replaced more often, it’s also advisable to recheck every few weeks the Z level of the first layer because of tip wear. Otherwise you’ll be off for 10 or 20 microns before you know it and the adhesion of the first layer will get worse. Sure, it’s not a big deal to recalibrate the Z layer twice a month but in my case, instead of paying 4 euro for a brass nozzle, I’d rather pay 10-12 euro for a Triangle Labs nickel plated copper unit which will last 4 times more and requires less recalibrations of the first layer,

Now, If one day I start using abrasive stuff I won’t spend any money on hardened steel, be it NozzleX or Vanadium, they have bad thermal conductivity. Ruby won’t be my choice either  (mediocre heat conductivity, rather bad flux and the fragile ruby tip it’s an easy prey in case of bed crashing). No, I’ll get a single-piece tungsten carbide nozzle which, in theory, will outlast the printer and possibly the user too.

AFAIK, currently the only readily available TC nozzles made from a single piece are sold by Spool3D in Canada. CA$ 69 is not that expensive if compared to ruby but, living in Europe, shipping isn’t cheap and you have to consider also VAT and Customs clearing fees. Ordering 2 units makes those added expenses more ‘palatable’ but still it’s around 80 euro per nozzle. Is it worth ?  Methinks that for non abrasive materials, nickel plated copper is a more reasonable option, but stuff with glass or carbon fibers demands TC.    

RE: Olson Ruby VS E3d Nozzle X

i used various hardened nozzles and currently with nozzle x . i think i already printed more then 10kg cf material with it (in addition to many more regular stuff) . had no problem with it printing prusament cf-pc or any other material including cf-pie at  380c .

i also think tc nozzle is the best , but if nozzle x holds up so well then why pay more ? 

yes thermal conductivity is not that great , but if you can't adjust your printing temp , don't bother with nozzle changing .

e3d will soon release their next nozzle called obxidian , maybe its worth the wait .in any case , i don't think its wise to pay 2x or 3x and more for indestructible nozzle . everything wears out , and will get damaged . for example i had a hardened nozzle stuck inside the heatblock with chewed threads . the only way to remove it was to cut the block , i didn't bother and threw them both .

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+ one for tungsten carbide nozzle.

Got it from Voxel Factory in Montreal: " Tungsten Carbide Nozzle M6 0.40mm 1.75mm from DyzeDesign" and I have been using it for over 6 months now. Perfect fit. 

Since the thermal conductivity is near brass I did not have to adjust parameters at all. I use it for all types of filament now. No issue at all.

Quite an improvement over the ruby nozzle that now sits idle.....

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I have a few nozzles from E3D, including the NozzleX
It prints fine with PLA and Glow In The Dark, where i bought the Nozzle for.

However, i cannot get a decent PETG print out of it. Tried many temperatures, just cannot get it right.
I wanted a print-it-all-nozzle, so i went for the Oscar3D version of the Ruby, and this one is a 2-piece nozzle, not 3.
It prints pretty good, all materials, even PETG. This is a print-it-all-nozzle.
The only thing i had to do is up the temperature a bit (5C), which is not much compared to the NozzleX.

This is a good nozzle (but i just got it... )

The full Tungsten Carbide nozzles are almost impossible to get here in europe, i would have to pay around $50 to get it here (shipping and taxes).
So i went for the Tungsten Carbide insert one (Phaetus). Waiting for it to arrive.

RE: Olson Ruby VS E3d Nozzle X

Diamond is going to give you the best heat transfer AND abrasive resistance. Buy Diamondback if you want to support USA for $95 or Durozzle if you are good with Chinese for $60. Both are on sale on amazon for Black Friday.